Protesters in SoCal block buses carrying supposed illegals

No sh1t.

They would be released to a parent or guardian from there after processing.

The protesters knew exactly why the buses were there, your attempt to belittle them by way of ignorance is hysterical.

Talk about hyperbole.

 

The Ag sector can apply for and use the H2A visa that has no cap limits, they can literally bring in as many as they need. As for tearing up families, its OK when they abandon there children in their home country to come to the US though, amirite?

It would simply place those countries in the position we are in now, caring for their people and trying to accommodate them all at once.

Hardly.

 

They are illegal aliens. Throw their sorry asses out of our country. Or put them in jail.

Prevent them from getting into your town. They will be there forever and they will steal your future.

So keep them out or suffer the consequences.

Arm the border and shoot the invaders.

 

Find them and deport them. Every time we find an illegal alien we need to determine they are here illegally and get them out of the country.

The United States of America is for Americans. If we decide you are not welcome here then you are not welcome here. Go away.

And Obama needs to have his traitorous butt kicked out of the country as well. Send him south with the kids.

You can go too. Your heart is not here. You might aw well go to where your heart is.

 

It isn't that simple. Most of these people are from countries in central America, not Mexico. It isn't as simple as driving them to the border and dropping them off. Transportation has to be arranged, as well as communication with the countries they are being deported to. There is a process that must be followed in order for them to be deported, and the processing center exists to hold these people while that process is being sorted out.

These kids aren't stealing anyone's future. What an absurd and xenophobic statement. If you think that poor people escaping violence and poverty should just be shot on sight, you are no better than the Soviets and their occupation of Eastern Europe or the Nazi regime. Sorry, but this country is founded on freedom and justice, not tyranny.

 

Sure it is. Stop them at the border and turn them around.
Give no more aid to Mexico. Do not allow Americans to go to Mexico as tourists. Do not allow illegals here to send American dollars to Mexico. Begin rounding up illegal aliens and deport them. If their home nations will not take them back then do not spend one more American dollar in that country that refuses. Decclare any nation that will not accept a return of their illegals a hostile nation. Close the consulates in those nations.

Round up the president and his hench-men. Jail them, find a country to take them, and boot them out of the country. Obama created this mess. He should stand trial for his crimes against humanity. He should be stripped of his wealth.

They walked in. Let them walk out. It is not our problem.

You are a liar. You know that you are a liar.

Are you going to foot the bills for the next 50 years for these people and their extended families? Will you pay for their schooling, for their health care, for their groceries, cell phone, subsidized housing and all of the other welfare programs?

If not then you are a liar.

You are a liar. They are invaders. Stop them at the border by whatever means are available.Once this happens no more will come.

I believe the ones who caused this should be shot on sight. But that would include people like you wouldn't it?

No illegal alien has a right to come to this nation, my nation, and live off of us. So it must be stopped.
Are you aware that the Soviet Union did not have hundreds of thousands to millions of people crashing their borders to get in to their utopia? Ditto Eastern Europe. Are leftists incapable of creating apt analogies?

Nor were the national socialists, more of your thug leftist buddies killing people trying to get in. They were murdering their own citizens and the defeated citizens of other countries. Stopping an invasion at the border is closer to combat.

Like most leftists you turn truth on its head. It is tyranny, practiced, by Barrack Hussein Obama, the useful idiots and his henchmen against the citizens. And you believe you are doing a good thing by encouraging the invasion to continue.

 

75% of these immigrants are not from Mexico. Perhaps you missed that part.

Thousands of kids are here now, and they do not belong to Mexico either. It is an international problem, and because they are here we need to get them back to their home countries. That doesn't happen instantly, and in the meantime these people need a place to stay. That is why processing centers exist.

Not an argument.

Again, you don't have a clue what is going on. These people are not being granted citizenship or legal residency. Most of them will be deported. The buses are not dropping them off on the streets. They are being dropped off at processing facilities because the ones at the border are full. It really isn't that hard to understand.

So you propose the US government shoot children crossing the border? Hitler and Stalin would be proud of you.

I'm not a leftist, nor does calling me one add anything to your argument. The Soviets shot people for trying to leave. And yes, thousands upon thousands of people were trying to leave Eastern Europe. Shooting people for trying to enter is no better. The analogy is shooting people who cross borders. What you advocate is inhumane and tyrannical.

There is no invasion. Your post is full of xenophobic hatred and irrational fear mongering. If you can't have a level headed discussion, don't bother replying to me.

 

Sure it is, they entered from the Mexican border, drop them off from where they entered from.

Getting them back "home" isn't our responsibility, it is their own. If these people have no ID how do we know which country they then belong to? Language isn't a guarantee.

Sure they are.

 

And I said it does not matter. Stop them at the border. No one cares where they walked from. Perhaps you missed that part.

They need a place to stay in their host countries. Not here. Not under any circumstances.

"You are a liar. You know that you are a liar."

True. It was a statement of fact. You lie when you claim these invaders will not steal America's future. Someone will have to pay.

"Are you going to foot the bills for the next 50 years for these people and their extended families? Will you pay for their schooling, for their health care, for their groceries, cell phone, subsidized housing and all of the other welfare programs?

If not then you are a liar."

I believe both of us know exactly what is going on. I speak the truth. You prefer to conceal until it is too late.

Once again you lie. They are being bussed into the interior of the country. It really isn't that hard to understand what is going on. They will be housed, cared for and eventually released. Obama cannot be trusted. Nor can you.

If you insist on keeping them then erect some tents and send more government workers to live in tents with them until they are processed/disposed of.
"They are invaders. Stop them at the border by whatever means are available.Once this happens no more will come."

And Goebbels would be proud of you. So what. If invaders do not break off their attack then repel them with force.

"I believe the ones who caused this should be shot on sight. But that would include people like you wouldn't it?

No illegal alien has a right to come to this nation, my nation, and live off of us. So it must be stopped.
Are you aware that the Soviet Union did not have hundreds of thousands to millions of people crashing their borders to get in to their utopia? Ditto Eastern Europe. Are leftists incapable of creating apt analogies?"

You certainly sound like one. You still suck at creating apt analogies.

See? You continue to suck at making apt analogies. The governments you chose for your analogies were keeping their citizens captive. In this case these are invaders, not citizens.

What is inhumane is for the piece of crap Marxist in the White House, to tell the world that he won't turn away dreamers. If they can get here and get in they can stay.

No one can help you pay attention.

By the way your signature quotes are apt:

"We shall not grow wiser before we learn that much that we have done was very foolish."
Friedrich August von Hayek

"Every bad idea in the history of the universe seemed like a good idea at some point in time."
What you are supporting is very foolish. Your good idea is very bad.
Answer or don't. Either way the citizens if this country have to do what the government has failed to do. Stop the invasion at the border.

 

You cannot deport children from Honduras to Mexico. They are not Mexican citizens either. Imagine if Canada deported undocumented immigrants from Mexico to the United States. Would you find that to be acceptable? They are here, and they must be processed before deportation. You are completely ignoring the logistics of how deportation works.

That is not a lie, that is my opinion. Which you have not refuted in any way by calling me a liar.

Already refuted.

Ad hominem, not an argument.

They are being taken to processing centers, which exist for situations exactly like this. It makes no sense to spend money putting up tents when money has already been spent on processing facilities.

Already refuted. Requoting yourself is not an argument. The fact that you advocate shooting children crossing the border as well as US citizens who believe those children should be treated humanely is disgusting and tyrannical, plain and simple.

Irrelevant ad hominem. Please actually respond to my arguments, or do not respond at all.

That is not relevant to the point of the analogy. What is analogous is the action taken (shooting people crossing the border). Whether they are kept in or kept out is totally irrelevant.

Not true. These children are being processed to be deported. Some may not be due to family ties, but that doesn't change the fact that your claims are completely unsupported. Again, they are just xenophobic fear mongering, nothing more.

Perhaps you should read my quotes and take them to heart. You have more ad hominem, personal attacks, and empty assertions than arguments. If you will not offer an actual argument, I will simply stop wasting my time responding to you.

 

"And I said it does not matter. Stop them at the border. No one cares where they walked from. Perhaps you missed that part.
They need a place to stay in their host countries. Not here. Not under any circumstances."

Stop them at the border. I do not care where they walked from. For the 60-100K that are here keep them on the border. If tent cities are needed then give them the barest of essentials while they are processed and disposed of.
If they don't like the barest of essentials then let them walk back to their home countries.

Until the invasion ends put Mexico on the enemies list and do not allow Americans to do any more business with Mexico.

 

"You lie when you claim these invaders will not steal America's future. Someone will have to pay."

I suppose in your imaginary world the money to pay for these tens to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants will just fly out of Obama's ass?

Would anyone interested in the truth make your claim?

The flow is expected to grow. The number of unaccompanied, undocumented immigrants who are under 18 will likely double in 2015 to nearly 130,000 and cost U.S. taxpayers $2 billion, up from $868 million this year, according to administration estimates.​

So are you a liar or you are intentionally badly informed? Two billion is the estimate. I suppose in the liberal mind two billion is nothing more than little golden farts from the dear Leader's butt.

Estimates for this sort of activity are always low. Always.

In my opinion this is a crass, evil, democratic play to tip the balance so that the democratic party will be the dominant party forever. We will add the poorest of the poor, those that are sick, who are illiterate, who have no skills and who will help in leveling American society downward.

This is rule not governance. And you support it.

Billions for defense. Not one cent for unlawful aliens. Seal the border.

 

Of the hundred thousand or so who have come how many have been deported?

Most children are placed into care because they were apprehended by immigration authorities while trying to cross the border; others are referred after coming to the attention of immigration authorities at some point after crossing the border,” says ACF. “The average length of stay in the program is currently near 35 days. Of the children served, some 85% are reunified with their families.”​

Based on this my guess is none or very few. Once they are here they are here. There is a push to make all illegals legal. When we do it will change the nature of the citizenry in ways that are not good.

We are in a war and the enemy leaders include our president, the democratic party and much of the establishment Republican cabal.

It is time to put an end to it. Seal the border and deport every illegal alien we catch.

 

"And Goebbels would be proud of you. So what. If invaders do not break off their attack then repel them with force.

I believe the ones who caused this should be shot on sight. But that would include people like you wouldn't it?

No illegal alien has a right to come to this nation, my nation, and live off of us. So it must be stopped.
Are you aware that the Soviet Union did not have hundreds of thousands to millions of people crashing their borders to get in to their utopia? Ditto Eastern Europe. Are leftists incapable of creating apt analogies?"

You refuted nothing. A lie's restatement is not refutation.

Once we stop the invasion at the border the follow on waves will slow or stop. What is disgusting and tyrannical is the democratic party plot to change the electorate until they can never again be challenged in the polls. Import enough of the world's poor, move them into places that vote for Republicans, make the illegals' legal, encourage chain migration and the two party system will end.

So today's fight, the close in fight, is at the border. Keep the invaders from crossing and swiftly process and deport the rest.

Why do you hate your neighbors so much that you would do this to us? Why do you hate yourself so much?

 

You just restated the exact same argument without refuting mine at all. It is nonsensical to spend money to house them in tent facilities when money was already spent on processing facilities.

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More hyperbolic fear mongering. Your argument remains refuted.

 

The money to "pay" for them will come out of the taxes these immigrants will pay. If they are undocumented, they can't get welfare, so they will only stay here if they can find a job and make money.

 

I see you have given up. It works for me. You and yours must be defeated.

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More lies. Nice try. You fail. And since it is willful you are a liar.

 

These immigrants can not legally work, how are they then going to pay taxes after the fact? This is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

There are some programs they can obtain immediately as the qualifications are based on income and not status. They don't have a legal right to work, so how will they make money and pay taxes?

 

I've given up expecting anything but insults and fear mongering from you. Saying I am lying and then restating your same empty assertions are not arguments. If you can't understand that, it is a waste of time to continue.

 

If you should ever stop lying I will stop calling you a liar. Given that you are unlikely to stop lying it is a waste of time to continue. We agree. You are dismissed.

 

Work the fields, watch the children, clean the house ! You left out PICK THE COTTON ! It really is amazing looking at the liberal progressive mindset .
Control them by giving them trinkets and we can't loose. A page from the Democratic handbook.
Racism at its worst.
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