Some people do good things only because they think an imaginary old man is judging them. Without that incentive they would be (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s. I'm agnostic. However, I find it's easy to beg God's help when I'm desperately in need of a job. Desperate people do stupid things. Sometimes God is the only hope these people have and without it they would give up and stop trying.
I am not familiar with that one .... especially when you are displaying a "™" next to the name. Is there any information published about it on the internet?
Admittedly, science has in deed designed and had fabricated more weapons of destruction than any religion has ever accomplished. BTW: you might want to check this out: i·de·ol·o·gy (d-l-j, d-) n. pl. i·de·ol·o·gies 1. The body of ideas reflecting the social needs and aspirations of an individual, group, class, or culture. 2. A set of doctrines or beliefs that form the basis of a political, economic, or other system. I bet 'science' would fall into that assemblage real nicely.
No. No it's not. And if I'm being perfectly honest this is the most irrational argument that I have heard used against religion.
Christianity does. Buddhism does. Just because a religion teaches it, doesn't mean that it's adherents follow it 100%.
Really, believing without evidence or logic does not make people easier to convince to do something bad?
Religion being bad isn't just wars and killing in Gods name. What about simple things like looking down on others. Acting like they know it all. And no one knows what heaven will be like or even if there is one. It's impossible for us to know those things. Just like no one knows what date Jesus was born or even if he rose from the dead. Honestly none of that even matters. Just get on with your life and be a good person. As far as the church raising money for hospitals and such, were did that money come from. People. shouldn't people just give without having to be made to feel guilty. I have no religion and I've given to homeless, hungry people on the street, and cancer patients. How do you explain that behavior from a person with no religion?
What is "bad"? Is that not one of those subjective, ambiguous, capricious, whimsical things that are entertained in the mind of every man, woman, and child?
And the absence of religion can stop that? I don't get your point. By the way, Im' sure religion stops lots of teens masturbating. - - - Updated - - - Not knowing about christianity while living in the USA is quite a feat. Congratulations.
Ok so how did that religion help in any way. Parents can teach there kids humility and respect. I taught mine so I guess my kids do not need religion.
And if that belief without evidence gives good results? Why would we bother wanting it removed if not because you're intolerant and can't accept other people not thinking like you do? hitler might have been a christian, but he didn't do it primarily because of christianity. It's like the famous analogy that both stalin adn hitler were atheists and therefore atheism is bad, but that is refuted with saying that both had moustaches too. The same logic applies here, only that you wont see it because you're probably an anti-theist blinded by fanaticism.
I don't have a problem with religion in general but they should be treated like the psychic on the street corner or the country club down the street. "Golf, tennis, god anyone?" No tax breaks, nos special preference over any other club or group. Oh ya, and any religion who's belief is anyone who doesn't believe as they do will be punished or go to hell should be abolished on grounds of bigotry.
It would still not be worth the negative aspects of belief without evidence or logic. Because irrational thinking leads inextricably to manipulation. Good or bad, it does not matter. - - - Updated - - - Bad is something determined by society at large.
I think the problem is that you don't fully know what religion is, or that you're denying it. Do tell me, are you a white teenager, have you been listening to richard dawkins, sam harris, and hitchens? It's been said many times before but it's worth repeating: This anti-theist crowd which has gained popularity recently is as fanatic and blind as those they claim to be against. Religion doesn't always make people feel guilty. Sometimes, it makes people want to do good to their fellow man, but you just can't see that can you? No, because you're brainwashed to believe that religion is only evil. That's the kind of dogma that you claim to be against isn't? Wake up, please. I'm speaking to the broader fanatic atheist movement by the way.
Are you trying to insult me now. That is so religious of you. Your helping me prove my point. Besides I've been part of many different churches over the years. Disappointed in them all. My children were more well behaved than anyone else's in the church. I didn't want my kids to grow up to be like theirs so that was the last church I ever attended. My children have turned out great. Oh and I have read the bible cover to cover. Its been years but I did read it. You don't judge much either do you?
What negative aspects? How is some people believeing in gods affecting other people badly? me think that you're just a perfectionist that want to see a world without religion, without any rational reason behind. No it doesn't. Society has accepted race segregation, slavery, eugenics. Surely that was all good eh?..
Nice one, I'm not religious. I'm a non-believer, but I identify as a christian, a cultural one. Protestant more specifically. But that reveals that you don't think that an atheist, though I prefer agnostic, could ever make a cases against your position. I haven't said that the absence of religion makes people bad, or will make your children less well behaved. And if you've read the bible, how could you miss the jesus hippy stuff? Granted he was somewhat contradictionary.
indeed, that's one negative thing about religion. Though my point is that it's not inherent. Id est, there are many christians, in sweden for example, that don't mind homosexuality.
It isn't the belief in God, it is the irrationality that the belief requires and the irrationality that religion requires. Good rebuttal. Once again, if someone is not questioning their beliefs with evidence or logic, that person will more likely willingly believe anything told to them in an authoritative manner. Never said it was a perfect process. - - - Updated - - - My question was not about what people wanted to do, it was about people being convinced what to do. So, no, it didn't allude to it at all.
