Rules no longer apply

The full current list of moderators is:

cenydd
ChestyPuller
daisydotell
falena
GoSlash27
Jiyuu-Freedom
JP5
Makedde
Shiva_TD
Sir Thaddeus
submarinepainter
The12thMan

So there are 12 of us at the moment in total.

 

Y'all should probably get more, so the mod force isn't stretched so thin...

 

Moderation is a thankless and unpaid job.

 

There is obviously a balance to be stuck so that the team doesn't become too large and unwieldy to be able to work coherently together as a team - this is a very large forum, though, and even if we had 3 or 4 times that number (which would make it extremely difficult to maintain our coordination and coherency) we would still not be in a position to review every post as soon as it's made. We are aware that at times we are stretched a bit thinner than we would like, as 'real life' takes some of our number away temporarily (or even permanently, sometimes at quite short notice), and we do consider additions to the team (advisors as well as mods) regularly, and do add additional members.

Bringing on board new staff members, and bringing them up to speed, is obviously a process takes a little time, but it is something we consider on an ongoing basis. It's better for us to take the time to do that properly, though, rather than rush it, make a mistake, and end up with someone who could potentially struggle with the task, or even act inappropriately or disruptively.

 

It may be unpaid but power and control have it's perks for those who subscribe to that.

 

I moderate a product forum for the company for which I work. Believe me, being privy to this island of power seldom out weighs the trouble users give you.

If you view moderating this or any forum as "power" I'd say your view point might be a tad myopic.

 

We had a couple of power-crazed mods. Both had to be removed from the roll. I think one got banned and the other still has an active account, but hasn't posted since he was removed from modding years ago.

I gave up my modding job after exactly one year because of my belief that it ought to be a temporary position. I don't miss banning and editing members. In fact, I stopped doing those things completely by the end of my term. I do miss being able to move threads to their proper forums and merging threads with similar topics. I used to really love that (*)(*)(*)(*). I'd spend hours here just moving threads around, not even commenting.

 

I can see that. I suppose doing it professionally has stunted my view.

 

Oh wow, we got 12! I was way off....lol.

Still, I didn't even know about the other 6 b/c I never see them on here.

The only ones I ever see is the 6 I named.

 

Ray, you'd be my first project.

 

I'm beginning to clearly see your point.

But hay, that's life and I've learned deal with inequality.

 

The Mod Squad??

 

And Spankless Too!

 

we all have had reversals Rap . we also moderate ourselves and yes we make mistakes

 

There are quite a few mods. One of the problems, as has been stated, is that they have lives and modding is a thankless volunteer position. Therefore, there is rarely more than one mod on at a time.

It would also help if the mod board was A LOT more balanced politically.

 

Why, not enough cons getting banned for you?
Cons are banned 2 to 1 compared to the libs and their bans are at least twice as long.

 

I agree , Subby , that discussion is the perogative preffered to closing a thread or banning someone . It's sad to see that many posters take advantage of that to post off-topic posts , that throws the whole thread off track.

I hope when the upgrades are completed and the new equipment installed & programs that they will free the Advisors & Mods to do what they are supposed to do .

I don't think I have the temperment to be a Moderator , but I'd try an Advisorship , but as I understand the process , the PF Staff must nominate someone for the Advisorship , and there are many posters that are here on PF that would prolly make good Advisors , RevA , OldTimer , DBM , James Cessna , Bronco Billy , TFM , SMW , Kimi , Rapunzel , Hat , Changed , just to name a few , there be many others as well .. and all the Advisors are kept on a leash anyway , so maybe nominate a few of these good folks and let them help out a bit . . give them a chance , ya know ? I thought you made a good Advisor , Viv .

well , Cenydd , as I understand the process , everyone starts out being as Advisor , and the Advisors are on a leash , so why not put a few more Advisors on to help the Mods out ?

well , Falena , that's the bigger question , isn't it ? Focus on the topic , and stay on topic , that's the biggest gripe I have , just too many off topic posts that are made , mostly in reply to an on topic post .

The addition of a dozen Advisors would help the Mods out , and they could move threads & combine threads , so I see that as a positive thing , give these good posters a chance to prove themselves , you had to prove yourself , didn't you ? so give these posters the same opportunity .

 

Maybe because there are more conservatives here than liberals?

I doubt that the mod board goes out of their way to ban conservatives since the majority of the mods are solid right-wing and the ratio continues to worsen with each passing year.

 

Yeah, well the lib mods make up for it. Plus there are a couple lib mods that seem to make it their goal in life to ban as many cons as they can, for as long as they can.

 

One of the criteria for selection to moderation on other boards is that the selectee has few to no infractions against them. They must have the ability to remain level headed and rebut the substance without attacking the member.

A number of those you have mentioned do not have that temperament,

Then the board owner must take consideration of who would "fit" with her current staff.

Ideally you choose an even balance of people from both sides but this can make the moderation area also fractious. It is not an easy task to choose people to moderate

 

I happen to have been on the board the day the opposite was posted by an ex moderator from here

Bias is often a product of the beliefs of the viewer

 

So???/10 char.

 

I don't see that anyone has been banned unless they had it coming.

well Zel , look how many chances people has been given , you got to really work hard to get the big "B" . ya know ?

well , BowerBird , I understand what you're saying , and you're right , up to a point , and beyond that , it seems to me well intentioned people ought to be allowed to make a few mistakes .

As a millwright in a paper mill , one time we worked liked dogs all day to put a huge thrust bearing on a size press roll , and when we put it in , we found out we'd put it on backwards , , as the team leader , I just knew I was fired , my foreman came out , looked me in the eye , and said " Rambo , you (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up . " so there we stood , greasy & nasty & hot & tired & about to be fired . I told him it was put on the way I told them to put it on , anybody gonna be fired , it's me , not my crew ... and they always looked for any excuse to fire a Union steward , and I was Chief Steward , so I just knew I was gone .

about that time the engineer in charge came out , one of the finest men I've ever met , he asked what had happened ? I said Bob , I don't know , we put it on backwards . well , long story short , he told the big boss " a man that don't make any mistakes ain't doing much." come to find out , the mfg of the bearing had marked the thrust side incorrectly , so even someone that tries their best to do it right can make a mistake , it cost the company prolly a half million in lost production , the bearing itself cost $20K . it was about the size of a VW car .

point is , even good people can make mistakes , but leadership and responsibility are things that are learned , and sometimes the lessons are hard.

 

HB old sweetie, I have been super moderator on not one but two different boards and there is a difference between making a mistake and regularly being a !#@@!#

Point in case there was one guy - witty as all hell - when in the mood great fun. But he would regularly arse chew anyone who spoke against him and then arse chew the mods for pulling him into line But he was popular

Rules have to be applied and the sad part is that if people do not post within rules they will not apply them evenly