Schapelle Corby

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by Makedde, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Oxyboy

    Oxyboy New Member

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    And what would be the exact figure of the high amount of foreign tourists we brutally murder each year?
     
  2. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    How about the number of foreign tourists who set themselves on fire and say someone else did it because they were Indian and the person was racist?

    Hmm, I seem to recall a case just like it...
     
  3. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I am passionate about this, and angry that more is not being done to help her.

    Maybe I don't wish harm on the Indonesian people - but I wouldn't make any sort of donation to them. I am too furious with the way SC has been treated.

    I am aware this is not a good way to think.
     
  4. Oxyboy

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    One of the pit falls of almost instant news/media. People start crapping on about a situation, using all sorts of conjecture, then when the actual truth come out you hear nary a word.
     
  5. ian

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    roughly about 1 per million I think, using Maks logic the nations that these murdered tourists belong to should cease all diplomatic and economic ties with Australia.
     
  6. Uncle Meat

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    I suspect she is innocent. However, even if she is guilty she should not be in jail. No one should be in jail for crimes involving marijuana. Absolutely ridiculous.


    [CEOs of tobacco companies: those bastards should be in jail.]
     
  7. Makedde

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    I agree and disagree. I agree that she is innocent, but I disagree that someone caught with pot should not be in prison.

    If they try to smuggle it into another country, then they should be sentenced according to the laws of that country, but I don't see any evidence at all to support the notion that Schapelle smuggled anything.
     
  8. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Bumping this for 'efjay'.
     
  9. efjay

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    thanks MAK, i will have a good read before i post ok.
     
  10. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    No worries, I look forward to a good debate!
     
  11. rusty83

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    What about the pot they found in her bag?
     
  12. garry17

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    No, no. that was not drugs, just her herbal remedies
     
  13. Samuel Democritus

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    People should not be put in prison for marijuana related charges. Marijuana does not destroy families. I know far more families destroyed by legal prescription drug abuse and addiction than by marijuana probably because marijuana doesn't destroy peoples lives, turn them into addicts, or kill them. Marijuana is a non addictive, natural substance, that you cannot overdose on. It does not kill people. If they want to fine people with marijuana then by all means do it but no one should lose freedom over it.
     
  14. garry17

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    You know all about Marijuana how? I gather you have had extensive experience to post your opinion about the drug. Far from me to criticize your opinion...except, I have had many years of experience on this very subject. The fact that it does destroy families, funny enough, this subject is just one of the many ways it does.
     
  15. Samuel Democritus

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    When I was in my teens, I may have experimented with certain things :). I have lost friends who were far too young to pain pill overdoses. I have seen members of my family destroyed by alcohol and pill addiction. I have never lost a friend or family member because they smoked a joint.

    Alcohol and pills are both legal. And marijuana lands you in prison. Look up the amount of overdoses in the United States and the amount of people killed by drunk drivers. Then look up the amount of marijuana related deaths in America. Then tell me which substances should be illegal. The legalized highly addictive heroin pushed by big pharma e.g. roxicet, oxycontin, etc. or the non addictive natural plant that won't kill you or destroy your liver.
     
  16. Makedde

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    There was no evidence she was the one who put it there. They refused to fingerprint the bag.
     
  17. Samuel Democritus

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    You are the first one to bring this to my attention and I definitely need to do more research but from what I have gathered so far the circumstances surrounding this incident are fairly suspect. The refusal to fingerprint and the apparent lack of trying to hide a felony amount of drugs is suspect. Also you don't just start out by moving 4 kilos of a drug. You have to work your way up the chain. People who deal in illegal substances don't just sell weight to anyone or they would get busted extremely easily.
     
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    The fact it was HER bag and she was CARRYING IT is evidence. The question is whether it is substantive enough to convict her, but it is evidence nonetheless.

    Fingerprinting the bag could only help convict her, not exonerate her.
     
  19. Makedde

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    Lets not forget the security and sniffer dogs at the airport. How can someone get 4 kilos of pot (the bag was slashed open, too) past sniffer dogs that are trained to detect those drugs?

    They refused to fingerprint the bag, never wore gloves when handling it, refused to test the marijuana for origin and burned it when the request for testing was made.

    They never proved beyond a doubt that she knew the drugs were in her bag. I never bought it. Plus, the exact same day she flew out, there was a massive drug operation going down in Sydney airport. Coincidence? I think not.

    Also, the drugs, if sold in Australia, were worth a lot more than if they were sold in Bali. Why buy drugs in Australia then sell them in a country where you won't even make a profit?
     
  20. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Fingerprinting the bag could lend weight to her claims she didn't know the bag was there. It would show she never touched the bag, which would help her case.
    And why would she demand the bag be tested if she put it there?
     
  21. rusty83

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    Maybe she didn't want to leave her fingerprints on the evidence.
     
  22. Samuel Democritus

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    I don't see why they would refuse to do tests at all. The drugs being in her bag doesn't look good for her. But it sounds sketchy. If there was truly a massive drug operation in the Sydney airport that day, a drug smuggler could have caught wind of it at the last moment and performed a stash and dash and unfortunately her bag was chosen randomly as the stash bag.
     
  23. Makedde

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    There is no way we can prove that now, is there?
     
  24. Makedde

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    There is suggestion it was a baggage handler who put the drugs in her bag. Apparently he was involved in the operation, and was worried he'd be caught out, so shoved the marijuana in the first bag he could find - Schapelle's.
     
  25. rusty83

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    Well you can't prove a negative.
     

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