Senate Intel Dems Admit There May Be ZERO Evidence Of Collusion Between Russians And Trump Campaign

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  1. Hoosier8

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    Did you read the bill? Apparently not.
     
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    Based on what. Telepathy? Bigotry? What.
     
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    Sore losers are so cute
     
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    No evidence
     
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    Iraq happened, our "intelligence" services don't get the benefit of the doubt until they prove their claims.
     
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    Is that blue Kool-Aid you're drinking?

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    Oh yeah!!!, Putin said so!!!
     
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    No it isn't.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...spoke-privately-dnc-hackers-article-1.2994990
    Roger Stone, President Trump’s longtime confidant and former campaign advisor, has admitted that he was in private communication with one of the Kremlin-connected hacker personas behind the Democratic National Committee email breach last year.
     
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    Similarly, there may have been zero evidence of any wrongdoing on the part of Clinton and Obama in regards to Benghazi so it wasn't worth investigating, right Repubs?
     
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    These guys are really reaching for straws aren't they? I want to see them prove collusion in 140 word messages :D
     
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    Once again for the slow folks, Clapper was asked if he had any evidence that the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russian government, and based on the information he had up to that point he replied, “Not to my knowledge.”

    I kind of think that if evidence of something so heinous existed, the director of national intelligence would know about it. The irony is that while the resist-bots are crying out that Trump is unstable for a tweet he made, they are in unison -- the elite media, prog politicians, lynch-mob followers -- all egregiously sticking to the claim the Russians are coming. And if this claim is not coming from bugged conversations, then where? Mass insanity.

    The Left will never live this down. They have shown their hand, and it's bupkis.
     
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    Exactly the way I feel towards FBI, CIA and Whats-Their-Abbiveration-N-Something-Something.

    I do not trust governmental services of USA on that matter. And recomment you get rational - and look at their statements with a certain degree of scepsis.
     
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    Well, I came. Here. To ask people why the hell my country getting so carelessly accused of international crime, and... Basically all I have been presented with - official paper of CIA, FBI and N-something, full of assestments, assumptions, calculations and nostalgic articles about age of Cold War.

    No solid evidence, no reliable proofs, just a big blob of excuses to oppose political outsider whithin the country and keep inflating the NATO military union in Europe, as if it has any reasons for existence.

    But I guess country with minimal wage of 0.61$ per hour, rising unemployment, and ruined credibility of current ruling party and president promoted by it is so-o scary, that world needs a giant military alliance and a ring of puppet states to oppose it.
    I may not be exactly corrected in 'puppet state' part, but evidently most of neighbouring countries currently have pro-USA policies, and despise not only everything about - in many cases our common soviet past, but also everything they can about modern democratic - even if far from perfect - RF.

    Sorry for spilling that here - but I guess victors of Cold War deserve to know what their further actions turning the defeated post-soviet states in. Personally, reminds me of Weimar Republic.

    Point being - well, the e-e-evil russians are coming - to start asking questions, wondering why the hell in XXI century a democratic state is opposed globally and treated like some sort of second-class subhumans, who deserve to get their history smeared with ****, their elected president publicly called a killer, their efforts being always at first presented as acts of agression - no matter, what they are being, and these people themselves - despised for their nationality, threated with violence during visits abroad, and due to political actions against their country - practically slowly, but steadily starved to death.
     
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    You tell me, post some links to reliable news sources (No CNN).
     
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    You had more to worry about with Obama.
     
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    So true, Trump Derangement Syndrome has hit a new low, but I don't think it's bottomed out yet. I think it's out of control enough that when the Party leaders tell them to stop of they'll end up with a Republican 60 seat majority in the Senate, they won't be able to stop the runaway train.
     
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    "Senate Intel Dems Admit There May Be ZERO Evidence Of Collusion Between Russians And Trump Campaign"

    Repubs admit that as well, just as Democrats and Republicans need to appoint a special prosecutor to look at the evidence that caused the FBI and the NSA to publicly state that they agree with the CIA's assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the White House.

    Pretending that there is no evidence of what the FBI, NSA, and CIA have concluded is not a credible option.

    What they all agree upon is far to important for the US to meekly accept - the subversion of its democratic process by a hostile foreign power to serve its agenda.
     
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    Well, at least we're not dubiously using "17 intelligence agencies" like Paulson said "700 million was just a really huge number". They must really think we're stupid. Sorry FBI, NSA and CIA: I'm not that stupid, and Hillary probably isn't either. She just needed to cling to this, anything to excuse her own shortcomings lol.

    Their claims largely hinge on the idea that the malware traced is the same one that Cozy Bear, etc have used. But that in of itself is not a physical print of the Russian government(or Russian operatives.) It's just a physical print of Russian malware. It's called a "translator". These people break codes, you don't think they masked operations?

    So no FBI, I do not have high confidence. Not in the slightest, not with the very narrow 'evidence' that's there to display for the case.
     
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    You mean Russia through it's propaganda tried to influence an election I"M SHOCK. So what does that have to do with their conclusion the Trump campaign was not involved and what needs to be investigated now? The DNC now knows they were stupid and incompetent you'd think they would that to go away in a hurry.
     
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    Yes, a special prosecutor conducting an independent, open investigation that thoroughly assesses the evidence and pursues the matter wherever it leads is the only legitimate approach to achieve vindication or place the blame where it belongs.

    There will always be irrational hyper-partisans who will refuse to accept the independent findings if they don't like them, of course, but such a vital matter of national security demands unbiased, intense scrutiny.
     
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    Interesting that you are challenging a claim I never made. I never said either Hillary Clinton or her official campaign were involved in spreading the rumors, merely Clinton supporters.

    I know all about the Free Republic post but that, just like this, was just a post on a message board. The story was circulated by Clinton supporters, not by Republicans or the McCain campaign. Thanks for playing though.
     
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    I will agree as long as the scope is wide and includes investigating executive branch overreach in what information was given to them from the Trump Towers server FISA warrant and let the chips fall where they may.
     
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    what democratic process was subverted ? Is public opinion a democratic process ?
    Is Russia hostile ?

    Hyperbole much ?
     
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    I did like it with Pres Bush Jr nor Pres Obama, and I have always objected to both Pres doing it
     

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