Sheriff Arpaio revives birther controversy at Trump rally

We have been using that term for years.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/01/exclusive-concerns-military-chaplain-vetting-policy.html
Defense Department spokeswoman Eileen Lainez told FoxNews.com that some of Schmitz's recommendations have since been incorporated into vetting policy.

http://www.dhs.gov/news/2013/09/26/...use-homeland-security-subcommittee-border-and

•Use of ATS-P to enhance name matching for overstay vetting: CBP has leveraged existing ATS-P matching algorithms, previously not available to ADIS, for the purposes of better matching names in entry and exit records, thereby improving the accuracy of the overstay list. Additional matching algorithms have helped identify matches that the original ADIS system may have missed

 

Get a certified copy but not to view those public records.

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Anyone can view birth records it is getting a copy of one that the law protects.

 

Well that very much depends on what you mean by 'public records'- anything deemed a public record- sure- however birth certificates are not public record.

For instance- in Hawaii the Birth Index data is part of the public record.

But the birth records maintained at the Department of Health in Hawaii are not.

 

No, an offical said that and is patently wrong, an official cannot overrule state law. Yes it is a "special request" but it wasn't one uniquely "granted" to Obama, the official BY LAW could not turn down the request regardless of the fallacious statement she made in her letter. ANYONE for whom they have such a record can make that special request and it SHALL be granted as REQUIRED by the law. That state official cannot deny the request.

The policy concerns ROUTINE request, the law requires that if the person by special request seeks a copy of ANY pertinent form the state has in it's posession it SHALL be given to them, no if's and's or but's. Obama could have made that request from the getgo and like with any other citizen of Hawaii the state would by LAW have to provide the certificate.

I've never denied that fact you don't need to keep repeating it.

 

Show me where the LAW says otherwise and not some uninformed official who didn't know what the law stated.

Again

"The State’s public records law, the Uniform Information Practices Act (Modified) (“UIPA&#8221, found at chapter 92F, Hawaii Revised Statutes (“HRS&#8221 requires that all government records be open to public inspection unless access is restricted or closed by law. "
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/

PART III. DISCLOSURE OF PERSONAL RECORDS

Note

Part heading amended by L 1989, c 192, §5.

[§92F-21] Individual’s access to own personal record. Each agency that maintains any accessible personal record shall make that record available to the individual to whom it pertains, in a reasonably prompt manner and in a reasonably intelligible form. Where necessary the agency shall provide a translation into common terms of any machine readable code or any code or abbreviation employed for internal agency use. [L 1988, c 262, pt of §1]

You agreed that Hawaii had in it's possession Obama long form birth certificate. A state official cannot declare a state law null and void, she could not have turned down the request even if she wanted to do so as I have proven over and over and you have yet to refute. And show me where Hawaii law restricts that access to a person with a pertinent interest as described under Hawaii law and gives that power to this state offical.

There is no evidence of that, hearsay by a former editor proves nothing and the fact that her statement is totally incredulous.

 

Is the Attorney General's office of Hawaii- and the Department of Health incorrectly interpreting state law?

You say it is.

They obviously believe otherwise.

Enjoy your disagreement with the State of Hawaii.

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Why exactly do you think that the Attorney General of Hawaii is uninformed?

...Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.
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But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records. "It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

 

You are as ignorant about what hearsay as you are about what is evidence.

As I pointed out- She is the only person who has commented on the brochure that has first hand knowledge- and her comments reflect her first hand knowledge- not 'hearsay'- and yes- her statement is actual evidence.

Unlike your speculation and innuendo.

So once again- the question you keep dodging.

Since you keep implying/stating/speculating/ that Barack Obama is responsible for the claim that he was born in Kenya in the brochure-

Why do you believe that Barack Obama would make such a claim? Who do you believe he was trying was to fool?

 

You provided examples from the current incompetent administration. How about from the Reagan administration or the JFK or Esienhower administration ?

 

Here's the best I can find on the internet.

So I don't think it was used by the federal government until very recently but by the media.

Like I said before, the only time I hears the phrase used before was at the track.

It's like assault rifle or assault weapon, until politics corrupted the term, not even a full automatic M-16 A1 rifle met the definition of being an assault rifle or weapon.

Before the 1980's there were only two assault rifles ever fielded by any military, the Sturmgewehr-44 and the AK-47. Never once during the Vietnam War was the M-16 A1 ever referred as an assault rifle because it isn't.

It's part of revisionism, to change the meaning or definition of words to further a political agenda.

 

Oh so by 'only recently you have only heard the term used for the last 30 years or so?

Foreign governments in the past have used the term "vetted" but until just recently it's the first time I've heard the U.S. government using the term.

 

And what is the agenda of using the term 'vet'?

You are aware I hope that language does change- and that new words are used- and old words are used in new ways in English every year?

Why you find something nefarious about the term 'vet'.......LOL......

 

Again, a random internet birthers interpretation of a law means (*)(*)(*)(*) all compared tomthenstate of hawaiis. They state flat out, that you are wrong.

Except of course I have repeatedly refuted you on this.

What are you talking about?

Well, we have her statement, and you have.........absolutely nothing. Lol

 

No where is Kim Wong saying who is an NBC. Show me where they claim so

 

She did porno for Marshall Davis a well known commie

 

I cited the Supreme Court doing exactly that in the Wong ruling. Read it. No amount of birther blogs can or will ever trump Supreme Court precedent. You need to learn this.

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Proof?

 

Recently I was looking for a parking place at a shopping center parking lot and there it was, a parking space right near where I had to go, it said "VET"

I thought that was very cool that the shopping center would have parking spaces for those who served in the military. Being a military veteran I pulled into the parking spot got out and started walking away when all of a sudden a lady came running out of the business that I parked in front of screaming and yelling that I couldn't park in that parking spot, that it's reserved for those who are bringing their pets to the veterinarian office.

When was the first time "vetting" appeared in an American published dictionary where they show the definition being to conduct a background check of a person ?

Grab a dictionary published before 1980 and a "dude" was a pantywaist, it was fighting words or before the 1970's being "gay" was being happy and cheerful. And there was no such word as "awesome" before 1970.

The current administration just picked the phrase "vetting" because they think it's a cool sounding word to use hoping they can convince Americans that not one radicalized Muslim or terrorist will make it in to America as a refugee because they will be vetted. Yeah right.

 

Quote where it makes anyone an NBC

[video=youtube;UMUlWbO1rhk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMUlWbO1rhk[/video]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06/your-right-to-know-more-racy-photos-of-obamas-mother-discovered-video/

 

Wow- you really go through life looking for things to be offended by.....

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Nothing slimier than a coward attacking someone by slandering his dead mother.

Birthers are such a slimy bunch.

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Worth pointing out that Birthers are such slimy cowards that they anonymously slander the President's dead mother.

Birthers are such slime.

 

Sorry if the truth hurts you after birthers.

 

"Well known" as in- that is what is said over at Stormfront.

By all the guys who never could get a good looking woman to go out with them.

 

No (*)(*)(*)(*), I didn't know that.

 

lol, birthers and their youtube videos.

 

I can we take your word for that ? How much time do you spend over on Stormfront ?

 

Well at least that would make him an NBC

 

But he's still a red diaper baby no matter if his father was a Marxist goat herder from Africa or a black American who was a member of CPUSA.