So is it OK to have sex with 14 year olds now?

So the harder I tell my kid not to put that loaded gun to their head the more likely they are to do it? I reject that fallacy out of hand. Yes the more you educate them as in birth control is not 100%, that sexual activity requires emotional maturity that young people have not attained, that sexual activity is not a sport and the consequences can ruin their future lives or at the least remove opportunites the less likely they are to engage in such activity. The more we normalize, and simple make these specious acceptances and then enable kids them more likely they are to engage in such activity.

We're not talking rape here. If a 14 year old wants to have sex with 30 year old men then why stop her if she is so capable of making such adult decisions complete on her own such as taking the Plan B drugs?

Why would you withhold that information from the parents? Will they be upset? I certainly hope so, just as if my child got arrested for shoplifting, should that information be withheld from the parent? How about if the child faints at school and is determined to be diabetic should that information be withheld? How about if the child is failing classes, withhold that too? If not why not?

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OH I'm sorry did I miss the change on the left and they now support parental consent for abortions?

 

Break it down by race and get back to us

 

Is this really an equivalent comparison? Can you truly compare taking medication with choosing to be in a relationship with someone three times your own age?

There are plenty of kids who have prescriptions that need to take them regularly and some kids are even smart enough to know to take an Advil/Aspirin for a headache and so on and so forth. I don't think the idea that kids taking some form of medication is equivalent to allowing them to be in a relationship with adults.

 

Who said anything about a relationship, what if she just chooses to have sex? If she is adult enough to decide to kill a baby, to take a massive dose of hormones because she believes she might get pregnant from the sex she had last night, why isn't she adult enough to decide to have the sex in the first place. If we detemine she is better able to make such decissions on her own without her parents or even her doctor's involvement what is the hang up about having the sex in the first place with whomever she chooses?

 

I would have loved to attend such a class when I was in Jr. High school here in Southern Cal in the early '60s....Some of my female teachers were really hot!

 

Even so taking medication is not equivalent to this.

I see, your opinion is tainted by your belief that abortion is wrong.

Quite frankly the hang up is that adults who sleep with children do so without their consent. They will manipulate and exploit them, that is the problem. If it was consensual and the child is fully aware of what they are doing then there wouldn't be an issue, but since that is hardly ever the case that is why society has a big hang up about it.

As for a child taking Plan B without their parent's consent, this is to protect them from parents who would otherwise force them to give birth against their will. Pregnancy can be a life ruiner for a child or teenager and they know it, it can also be extremely dangerous for them as their bodies are not yet fully developed to safely carry a fetus to term.

 

Loaded Gun? That's a completely false equivalency and a pretty big strawman. No a kids not going to put a loaded gun to their head, that's patently ridiculous.

Sex with precautions isn't a loaded gun. It can be without taking the proper steps, which is the ultimate focus of preventative education. Kids are having sex, and will continue to have sex, whether you like it or not. The next logical step is to educate them enough so that they either
a) don't,
or
b) take precautions.

That is the extent of the control we have short of chains to the wall.

But we are, in some instances. Rape does exist and it sometimes happens to 14 year olds, who might be to ashamed to talk to their parents and would rather just deal with it themselves. Whether that is right or wrong is definitely up for debate, but it still happens.

As it stands, I don't see the desire to have sex with someone older (or anyone for that matter) by a 14 year old as any sign of maturity. This isn't about that, it's about mistakes, and the ability to minimize it to a single night, rather then the rest of ones life.

Of course they would be upset. Any parent with any emotional connection to their child would be upset, and hopefully have provided a caring enough home that the kid would have the safe enough space to bring something like that to the table to talk to them about. This is not always the case.

Plus, it may not always be feasible, time wise, to notify parents before getting the plan B in to prevent pregnancy. If she misses that window, the next step would be abortion, and I'd much rather have a 14 year old take a pill to prevent pregnancy, rather then having to go through the emotional and physical turmoil that comes with a straight up abortion.

 

I was 14 once and it seems that all I wanted to do was have sex. Same thing with all my friends.

So yes it's just the natural thing to do for normal healthy people.

 

I am not entirely against it. So long as the following conditions are met:

1. The parents of the 14 year old consent
2. the couple become married before having sex
3. a public appointed judge (or panel of 3 judges) approves of the marriage

I would also be very suspicious if the man was more than 12 years older than the girl. There should be additional laws to protect these young girls from potential marriage exploitation.