So is it OK to have sex with 14 year olds now?

Unfortunately kids are already growing up with this lack of morals and values. They've been taught that killing unborn babies is no biggy and it's legal...so doing it with a pill is cool..no muss no fuss kind of thing. Sad, ain't it that our children are growing up with no value of human life, except their own. Just showing more of this now selfish society we live in.

 

Society at large, has no role or responsibility to tell other parents how they should raise their kids.
If one is a good parent, they don't need society to help them and will teach their own kids properly.
Problem kids will be a problem regardless of laws you want a large federal gov't to get involved in. What happened to limited fed gov't? Smoke and mirrors of the conservatives?

 

Well I think that children are mature enough to take something as dangerous as a massive dose of synthetic progesterone responsibly without a doctors supervision. Plan B is meant to be taken as a one time use emergency medication. The amount of progesterone in plan B is too high to be taken regularly but we know that is exactly what is going to happen with plan B. It will become a daily medication for many girls who are too afraid to ask their moms to take them to get the pill. That is dangerous.

 

That's right, because your daily dose of MSNBC talking point fodder is so much better, so much more enlightened and intelligent

 

Sort of like shooting the cow because it will not give milk.

Conservative solution: "Sticking it to the kid"

Sad.

 

I am guessing he was writing one thought and made some changes and didn't clean it up. I wasn't really sure what he was conveying either. I think he wants the children to make their own decisions and that it is a right of theirs to do so. But honestly I am just not sure. That sentence baffled me.

 

Your missing what I am saying. I'm saying that if a girl (or boy) have their sights set on having sex, nothing you say or do other then chaining them to a wall is going to stop that. Your next best step is to educate about all aspects of sex and its implications and possible consequences, and hopefully you have raised a child who will take this information and put it to the best use.

As for consent laws, I am not in favor of getting rid of them, because while they may not stop all, it gives the police a tool against predators.

 

Keep the laws. But have you seriously ever tried telling a teenager not to do something? Better to have it available then to not. Parents wont parent these days and morals dont seem to matter any more so we kinda need a huge safety net. Plus with all the idiots i meet I hope they use plan B. I fear the number of idiots who breed early. Seriously the average US IQ has DROPPED in the past 100 years. I'm all for social equality and social progression. But if i have a daughter who gets pregnant at 14 i'd rather have her take plan B then tell me and loose the child. Rest assured it will get ugly. I was raised in the '90's by parents who were allowed to beat my ass and who made me get good grades in school. I see parents these days and all I can think is 'I hope their kids dont turn out like them'

 

Despite what sensational media will have you believe, teen pregnancy is falling for the last decade or two and is often at historical minimums. So we must do something right in recent years. Maybe relatively easy access to porn, sex ed and anticonception is responsible?

 

The fact a person is physically able to reproduce, suggest it is not a perversion to have sex with that person.
However, that doesn't make it right to do so.
In my humble opinion - such young people are not able to adapt to the riggers of being a parent and would probably have great difficulties surviving as an independent family unit.
Add to that my belief that a child should have the chance to be a child and it leaves you with me standing up and saying, sex with people of that sort of age is wrong.

 

Actually, the average US IQ has gained in the past 100 years, by about 3 IQ points per decade.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444032404578006612858486012.html

 

I believe we merely need more self-reliance regarding informing our selves better in a modern Information Age.

I wonder what Benjamin Franklin would say about the least wealthy who cannot read, in modern times.

 

It would be nice to see sex demystified and all of this desert cult-inspired fretting over what people, young or old, do together in private done away with.

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Bad news for politicians.

 

I am just glad I don't mind being more euphoric about learning how to use new tools.

 

Well tell that to the leftwingers who all believe they know better than parents as in a 14 year girl should be able to decide to have an abortion without her parents consent.

 

And what I am saying that if you enable it they will not just glance at it they will stare it down and take the plunge.

But it's the choice of the 14 year girl, she is obviously mature enough to make that choice if she is mature enough to decide to take the Plan B drugs without parental consent or under a doctors supervision.

 

That statement is a boldfaced lie and oozes with your disgusting racism.

 

I don't believe that giving people tools to help with possible mistakes equals carte blanche to just giver. You have to educate them on all the possible outcomes and let them choose, because the more you say 'no' the harder they will try to do it. Basic rebelliousness.

But not every 14 year old gets that choice. In some cases it is forced upon them. Look, I have reservations about this, and have a hard time formulating arguments against because in most cases the parents should be involved, but there are enough cases where the parents make the situation worse to at least warrant something of this sort.

Personally I would be more in favor of medical consultation, with or without the parents, prior to getting Plan B.

 

Yes, and many of those countries have tremendous teen pregnancy problems. You judge a tree by the fruit that it bears. Show me one of these countries you speak of that's accomplished as much on a grand scale as the United States. This is the argument that trumps everything when you try to compare conservative American culture to other cultures. If they haven't done what we've done, then they are measurably inferior by contrast. What does the winner have to learn from the second, third, fourth, or twelfth place competitor? Only how to be less than what he already is.

 

Really? Lets look at this map:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._birth_rate_per_1000_women_15–19,_2000-09.svg

And this map:

http://www.upnorthhealth.com/assets/images/jan09/teenbirths.png

Seems like more conservative regions have higher teen pregnancy rates. This seems true in the US, but also globally.

The best ways to prevent teen pregnancies is good sex ed, easy access to contraceptives and being open about sexuality.

 

The US has one of the highest teen pregnancy rates from all of the developed world (and higher than many developing nations).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teenage_birth_rate_per_1000_women_15–19,_2000-09.svg

Compare that with low teen pregnancy rates in liberal countries like for example Scandinavia

You judge a tree by the fruit that it bears, indeed...

 

Worth pointing out. We also have more minorities than those countries. Blacks and latinos are much more likely spawn young.

 

What if they claim they are picking a woman's slack?

 

Don't you know already?

 

I don't know anyone with that belief. RW rhetoric?