Something smells about the Vegas shooting.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by QLB, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. tom444

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    Yet they're going to happen, and no one will be able to stop it.
     
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    Exactly; which is why if gun control advocates want to enact bans on classes of arms they need to stop being intellectually dishonest and start openly advocating for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment, as well as the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.
     
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    And there were no limits placed on weapons.
     
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    Actually many weapons are banned.
    Bombs, grenades, mines, automatic rifles.
     
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    And it was done unconstitutionally. A Constitutional Amendment should have happened first. Period.
     
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    I do but I want the Centurion to tell us
     
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    what part of Article one Section 8 gave the federal government that power?
     
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    Not banned... transfers restricted and taxed
     
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    exactly other than the founders saw weapons as in three different groups

    arms

    ordnance

    artillery
     
  10. dairyair

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    Has the issue been ruled on yet by the ussc?
    I know you told me earlier it was headed there 1x but did it ever get there?
     
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    By banned, i mean illegal.
     
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    Not illegal either if you filed your papers and paid the tax.
     
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    It's conversations like this that make me glad that we continue to fund the Veterans Administration mental health services.

    Why do you think Mam (sic) is an insult?
     
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    The better question is why an insult is intended?
     
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    Well I wouldn't know but I'm sure you do, Mam.
     
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    Australia

    Not the entire crime rate because that would be idiocy to expect gun legislation to stop littering or loitering but it did reduce our homicide rate
     
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    And did it reduce the rugged individualism prevalent in Australia?
     
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    The number of homicides in Australia increased for four of the next six years after your ban, and your homicide rate decreased at a rate from 1996 to 2012 that matched the decline in the US homicide rate over the same time period.
     
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    Why would anyone have those stats available?
     
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    Good morning. They were published by the respective governments, who trend to track that kind of data. I researched it years ago when I first saw someone compare Australia to US homicide rates and cited the 1996 Australian bans as the difference. I'm data driven.

    How you decided which of the Browning BAR Mk3, Browning BAR DBM or Springfield M1A National Match are military weapons?

    Aside: I've typed that question so many times now that it pops up in the suggested text on my tablet.
     
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    Yeah, I have no doubt.
     
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    That's just "gun deaths". You're completely ignoring the substitution effect, where a killer simply uses something else. Note I said "homicide rate", which is a more accurate measure of the safety of society. Note also the frightening increases in sexual assaults and armed robberies.

    http://www.aic.gov.au/dataTools/facts/vicViolentCol.html
     
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    Piss off!!

    We are probably more ruggedly individual than the average American!!
     

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