Stop blaming the NRA for failed gun control efforts

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Kek, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. 6Gunner

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    American law defines a not for profit entity, and N.R.A. of which I have been a member and served, N.R.A. has always obeyed all laws under it's charter and regulations.

    Eddie Eagle a program many of us helped develop, was all about gun safety.

    We ( N.R.A. ) decided to stop compromising with the Gun Ban crowd's ideas of Gun Bans and restrictions on concealed carry, and confusing otherwise law abiding people that legally own firearms with the few hard core Criminals that are prohibited from ownership of firearms.

    Prosecute Criminals, not infringe on the Rights of law abiding citizens.

    We will no longer willingly accept the lies and confusing hyperbole and deception of the gun ban crowd or compromise our Rights to appease enemies of our Constitution.
     
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    Then perhaps the united state legislature should stop trying to restrict situations in which a person is legally justified in the use of deadly force for their own protection, and cease in efforts in restricting legal access to the best available tools for such purposes. The people cannot fulfill this obligation when elected officials are figuratively and literally tying their hands.
     
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    You are jumping all over the place trying to connect points that have no relevance. In other words, you are not making any sense. I think that you are lacking either earnestness or knowledge. Or maybe you just don't know how a sincere discussion on a subject is carried out. Sorry. :-(
     
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    I prefer to read unbiased studies undertaken by universities and appropriate institutions. Sorry, but I don't go by opinion or someone's experience.
     
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    It's about forming well regulated militias. Hows that panning out in your state.
     
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    15%, a low low 15%.
     
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    Puerile ad hom duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    Denial of factual reality duly noted!
     
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    :roflol:

    Ironic given that NRA Gun Culture of Death has disseminated so much disinformation that it is now being openly rejected by the majority of We the People.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/03/02/5898...-of-americans-who-want-gun-restrictions-grows

     
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    :applause:
     
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    The united state supreme court has stated that it is not. Rather it is about private ownership for all lawful uses, with self defense being only one example.
     
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    It was the error-laden statement on the part of yourself about how a lack of shootings directly translates into a lack of deaths, when there is no evidence to support such a position.
     
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    The so-called "studies" being referred to by yourself are not unbiased. They are bought and paid for by those seeking to further their own political agendas, and the results say whatever they wish them to say because the outcome is predetermined.
     
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    Meaning that there is no actual evidence on the part of yourself to demonstrate the claims being made by yourself are indeed accurate.
     
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    Asinine strawman duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    When you say "strawman" do you mean "claim that your argument isn't supported and not actually a strawman" and when you write "ignored" do you mean "responded to in 3 minutes"?
     
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    Strawman because abject denial on the part of the gun obsessed does not refute the ugly facts about the NRA Gun Culture of Death.

    Ignored means that it is a waste of time reposting the same facts to those who refuse to address them in an honest and forthright manner.
     
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    And still no evidence demonstrating the soundbyte statement of "NRA Gun Culture of Death" has any basis in reality. Cease wasting the time of others with such senseless blathering.
     
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    "No evidence"? LOGIC is the evidence, but I see you are not interested in that. This dialogue is finished.
     
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    You are trying to look at business or industry data where it exists and where available. There is a huge difference from scientific journals/papers. You do know the difference don't you?
     
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    Blame for your State legislators for Any security problems in Your State.

     
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    That would be the prefatory rather than operative clause of the sentence that is the 2nd amendment. The operative portion is "... the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." See DC v Heller (2008).
    Its about the people (individual citizens) having the right to keep and bear arms, and it is a prohibition from interference with same by the government.

    My state's populace is generally well armed and, again generally, decently well practiced. They also have practice assembling for emergencies and forming ad hoc groups to aid their fellows and/or mitigate damage. See civilian responses to various hurricanes.
    How's it going for y'all?
     
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    Unfortunately for you, the prefatory clause contains the legislative intent and purpose.
     
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