Stop blaming the NRA for failed gun control efforts

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Kek, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    You do not need research in reference to actual percentages except to discount and ignore the obvious.
    Albeit, there are vast accounts and Police reports and daily news reports confirming this fact.
     
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    Another lie, all of N.R.A. funding is recorded and public available on demand by any interested party on demand, no individuals get "rich" and if any did, prosecution would result in prison.
    N.R.A. is not a business composed of businessmen or women.
     
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  3. Kek

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    They just can't wrap their head around the idea that millions of law abiding citizens support an organization that defends their rights.
     
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    True;
    Criminals killed whilst in the commission of crimes tend to cease voting.

    I noticed that phenomena as a Police Officer and Constable, dead criminals seemed to lose the desire to vote.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just equate it to per 100,000 of population. America's culture, incarceration levels and the gun being viewed as a symbol and not a weapon could possibly be down to the forefathers and the Constitution. Unless they wanted all this, it hasn't worked out the way they intended.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would they support us going round to look at their membership list to see if any of those that committed a massacre were a member?
     
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    Except such polls are incorrect.

    When you tabulate the total sales of one handgun model, the popular Glock 19, sales are brisk and huge amounts sold, not to just the same few people, there are other models that serve as mile markers of sales.
    Background checks are made daily in record numbers and even if 1 buyer buys several guns, only one background check is performed per buyer.

    New concealed carry permits are issued every day and this also proves firearms owners are increasing, also, many classes are filled to capacity as well as ranges and gun clubs all showing what a lie it is to say gun ownership is on the decline, ammo sales and gun accessories are proof.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you even researched their salaries?

    http://www.nationalgunforum.com/general-gun-discussion/3502-nra-salaries.html
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very much ado about nothing. You have the understanding of a child. Read my main points again:

    > If the NRA is within the law then they cannot be blamed for anything at all.

    > The law needs to be changed (amended) to make the NRA responsible before they can be blamed.

    > So do it!

    > Make it illegal to own or sell firearms to the public.

    > Then (and only then) can any progress be made with the gun-violence problem.

    > More guns = more shooting.

    > Fewer guns = fewer shootings.


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    What part of that is too difficult for you to understand:
    - How individuals and organizations are not responsible for crimes they have not committed?
    - How individuals and organizations are responsible for crimes they have committed?
    - How laws are made?
    - How more of anything will facilitate more use of it?
    - How fewer of anything will facilitate less use of it?
     
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    Sure, why not ?

    Just as membership in any political party is not indicative or of any significance in relation to criminality.
     
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    I answered all of your questions.
    Read them.
     
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    Just that their spokesperson said no massacre perpetrators were on their membership list but refused for it to be examined citing members privacy as the excuse. I'm sure a judge checking the list won't divulge which celebs are on it.
     
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    Go for it.
     
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    Then you're fully aware at what great business people they are on being high wages at the members expense.
     
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    You post a forum thread from 2008.
     
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    Being allowed to check the NRA membership could allegedly be similar to, "Yes, you can have a look at my computer, just give me a couple of days to delete 300,000 e-mails first".

    "Blast, another massacre", just going down the list, "ha, here he is", *highlight, delete*.
     
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    Imagine what they're on now !!!
     
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    You need to understand the difference between a Drug Dealer with a gun and a law abiding citizen and cease prating about such inane concepts as gun control as a crime prevention method when you have no relevant experience in such matters.

    America rightly incarcerates the people it does cor the crimes they commit, or do you believe innocent people are incarcerated ?
    Truth is, too many violent people are NOT incarcerated and this results in more death and criminal acts, ie, violence.

    Violence in America is not cultural something most foreigners cannot understand or fathom, minorities commit most crimes, and less firearms has never hindered them before.
    Truth is criminals are less likely to use firearms in the commission of crimes out of fear of being sbot by Police and often, not being any more comfortable with firearms, gun culture notwithstanding in any case.
     
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    No, Hillary did that, members are not deleted from records in that fashion, and libel and slander is unseemly from your part, why be so dishonest ?
     
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    Did you honestly believe you needed to write that? Give posters credit.

    Why commit so many crimes? Can't handle freedom? (not very free being locked up or going to a school behind fences and armed guards)

    Violence in America is very cultural, glorified on TV/Hollywood. Not many films with Arnie not clutching a gun.

    Police shoot and kill regardless, 6 bullets in the back for holding a mobile phone.
     
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    What's the 9th word in my quote !!
     
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    In a capitalist society, the main aim (pardon the pun) is to rob, I mean, get as much money out of people to become rich, sod morales.

    It's finding that magic formula. Like James Dyson and overpriced plastic hoovers. Like Apple with overpriced gadgets made in Chinese sweatshops

    And like the NRA directors on high wages by fooling people into memberships.
     
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    No, you didn't answer my questions. All you've done just now is claim that you have without naming one of them. Furthermore (and more importantly) is that you have not taken the slightest notice of my statements. So, you didn't respond to my statements nor have you answered any of my questions. But if you respond to the statements I made then the significance of the questions should be obvious.
     
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    I sure did.
    Next.
     

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