Thailand - Renewables and EV Mecca

So all you have to do to purify the water in a flooded field is cover the surface and create a fish friendly environment??

 

I don't know. You posted the original link.

 

And you highlighted the highly questionable claim. Why did you highlight this?

 

I highlighted something?

 

A bit off topic but this is why solar and wind will always be a "second class" source of energy.

Zubrin, Robert. The Case For Nukes: How We Can Beat Global Warming and Create a Free, Open, and Magnificent Future (pp. 35-36). Polaris Books. Kindle Edition.

 

Three points:
1. A large base of Residential solar lowers the amount of required Utility generaton. In addition, EVs can be used for power storage, and can easily be charged only when Utilities have excess capacity.
2. Large warehouses can install solar panels within a city. Often these roofs can be more than an acre or two. Indeed, I worked for a Fortune 500 company who did this on an East Coast industrial plant.
3. Nearby rural areas can be used for Wind and Solar renewables. Often farming (plant and animal) can occur simultaneously on the same land

 

24/7 back up must be provided, maintained, and cycled. If not there are power outages as what occurred in TX a few winters ago - people died. EV's can't be relied on for energy storage.

Do these warehouses have roof space measured in square miles??

Each 1 million person city requires ~ 30 square miles of area for solar panels at a cost of $25B plus maintenance. A solar panel lasts ~ 25 years - then another $25B must be spent plus the cost of disposal. Wind turbines require ~ 120 square miles. Wind turbines have an expected service life of ~ 30 years. And what happens when the sun doesn't shine (at least ~ 12 hours per day) and the wind doesn't blow?

 

Three points:
1. A large base of Residential solar lowers the amount of required Utility generaton. In addition, EVs can be used for power storage, and can easily be charged only when Utilities have excess capacity.
2. Large warehouses can install solar panels within a city. Often these roofs can be more than an acre or two. Indeed, I worked for a Fortune 500 company who did this on an East Coast industrial plant.
3. Nearby rural areas can be used for Wind and Solar renewables. Often farming (plant and animal) can occur simultaneously on the same land

 

Square miles are needed. Not a few acres.

 

One roof can be acres. Many more roofs can be square miles.

 

If a building has a 2 acre roof you would need 3200 buildings for a city of one million.

What do they do with air conditioning equipment?

 

It will take a long time to go from A to B. One rooftop at a time, one wind turbine at a time. One pumped hydro plant at a time.

Regarding AC, a lot of facilities are beginning to see the pluses of geothermal systems - huge electricity savings in cooling air from underground circulating temperatures, than cooling air that is 90-100 deg F. Imagination is our friend!

 

According to global warming alarmists we don't have much time. Why aren't global warming alarmists pushing nuclear power plants? Safe power. Reliable power. Inexpensive power. Very little area required. Very little waste. Plant longevity. The advantages are very obvious but no support from the greens?

 

Wastes with half-lives of hundreds of thousands of years are being stored at the power plants in containment rated for 200 years.

 

The amount of nuclear waste materials are miniscule compared to the volume of solar panels and batteries which will have to be disposed of. The technology for storing the nuclear waste has been available for decades. There has been no political will to implement a federal storage site.

 

I bought my solar panels and a wind turbine. Have you bought yours?

 

Spent solar panels aren't racioactive waste. BTW, my solar panel system is rated 2800 Watts, and is 12 years old. I checked it today, and it was putting out 3100 Watts! I don't think these things ever wear out. REC makes a good panel!

 

They never wear out??

 

They have a great many toxic materials in them.

 

You've probably heard me make this argument before. The manufacturing process.of any material item has undesireable ecological effects. Cars, trucks, Utility equipment, anything. Here's the difference - once manufactured and installed, solar is the "gift that just keeps on giving". Meanwhile, coal is being mined, oil is being drilled, coal is being shipped, oil is being shipped, hazardous wastes are being unearthed in mass for the everyday usage of conventional electricity, vehicles, etc.

 

No maintenance, lifetime, and waste with solar??

 

You evade the central topic of the debate - everyday your gasoline and coal usage have a negative effect on the environment. EVERY DAY!!!

 

Everyday fossil fuels increase the global standard of living just as they have for the last century. Your negative effects manufactured by the American Lung Association don't negatively affect anything.

You are not seriously implying that solar panel farms and wind turbines don't have any negative effects are you??

 

Renewables do not threaten anybody's standard of living. EVERY DAY TOXIC WASTE with gas and coal!

 

Renewables increase the cost of electricity. That reduces the standard of living of the lower income quintiles who have to decide between heating or eating as is the case in Germany.

Where are gas and coal toxic wastes exceeding the EPA thresholds.