The people who stormed the capital are.......

The people who stormed the capital are.......

A.) Patriots trying to save America, and do not deserve to go to jail
B.) Seditious traitors who should be tossed in jail as long as the law allows.

 

Throw the book at them. Jail them all for as long as possible.

And before I hear crap about BLM and Antifa riots, throw them all in the same cell.

 

They were a bunch of easily influenced idiots who were being led by a traitor. I've read and heard a number of times they're referred to as a cult.

 

Be that as it may. ( and I happen to agree ) that wouldn't excuse them of any wrongdoing in a court of law.

 

While I do not support what happened in DC, exactly what laws did they break?

 

One cop dead - 50 injured. Theft of personal property from government offices, possibly including classified material. That's for
a start.

 

But the one oddly funny thing that has arisen from the MAGA riot, is that it has turned out that Trump's own supporters
have damaged the Trump Brand more than anything his detractors ever did. They have made him a toxic player in the business
world. And THAT will eat at Trump more than anything else.

 

Wow. Did you give any consideration to doing some research?

 

I couldn't vote in the poll because there weren't nearly enough choices.

There should have been at least one choice that said something like:

(The people who stormed the Capitol are........)

"People who broke the law in much the same way that BLM, ANTIFA, and Left-wing mobs did throughout 2020".

 

I was looking for an intelligent response.

 

I can see how that liquor store is as emblematic of American Democracy as the Capitol to MAGA patriots.

Yep a summer of racial protest and riots is unheard of in America. Why its only because of the evil left wing mobs this happens with regularity, as they try and fail to oppress the poor white christian majority. I can certainly see how that is justification for that lowlife racist fascist white nationalist scumbag to dare wave the traitorous loser confederate battle flag in the Capitol for the first time in history. Yeah crapping all over the heart of American democracy is exactly like rioting over the murder of one too many black men.

I should think you know being a patriot is ALL about putting country before party, not just dressing the party up in flags, symbols and self agrandizing grievance based exceptionalism.

 

When someone condemns a rapist, do you ask why they aren't talking about the murderer?

 

If you want to know something GOOGLE is your friend.

 

Hmm... I think that in order to 'get our arms around' the total problem -- and it is a very large one, as we have seen, it is important to see the kind of lawlessness and anarchy we have been enduring in this country through a unified point-of-view.

The Capitol protesters who went smashing into the building with the aim of tearing up the place, stealing or destroying valuable public property, and leaving trash and wreckage in their wake have a lot (A LOT) in common with ANTIFA/BLM protesters who went smashing through cities, tearing up public and private property, setting fires, stealing everything they could lay their hands on, and leaving trash and wreckage in their wake.

Make no mistake -- BOTH bunches of them -- ALL of them -- should be rooted out, prosecuted, and punished.

It's funny, though, that the full force and energy of investigators and police of various kinds is focused only on ONE group -- the pro-Trump protesters -- and not only the ANTIFA/BLM mobs that ravaged cities in this country throughout 2020....

 

You want to villify, excoriate, and punish one bunch of law-breakers, and excuse, honor, and even exonerate another bunch of law-breakers. That's bullshit! ALL of them, the 'MAGA' people, the ANTIFA/BLM people -- all of them should be arrested, locked-up, charged with crimes appropriately, and punished.

Isn't it funny, though, how only the MAGA-hat people are getting the full-blown attention and focus of the investigative "Gestapo" now for their crimes...?! Who has gone after the ANTIFA/BLM criminals...? Nobody...? Why are we not surprised....

 

I think part of the issue here is you need to be able to identify who is it that supports the BLM or antifa looters and rioters. I have seen a lot of post here and I often see people support the right of groups like BLM and antifa to protest but then they will condemn them if they riot or cause violence. I may have seen the occasional post where a poster may defend a BLM or antifa rioter but I seem to have seen a lot more people sympathetic to the Capitol rioters.

There seems to be a problem where people lump those that support peaceful protest with the small percentage of people that support violent rioters and looters. For example there was a thread recently where someone posted an antifa protest of a bookstore. I may not agree with their cause but the protesters seems polite and stayed outside the barrier in a public area. If these people rush the store and looted it I would think much differently. Another example was a video posted a while back of BLM or whoever rushing into a shoe store during a hurricane or something coming out with arm loads of boxes of shoes. All those people need to go to jail. I hope the cops used the video to arrest them all.

I have no problems with the Capitol protester that stay away from the buildings and protested peaceful. The same is true with BLM and antifa that protest and march peacefully. Once you break the law they all should go to jail. I think most people here feel the same way as I do.

 

What happened over the summer has been denounced by almost everyone. Many, many have been arrested, and the topic is ongoing.

This appears to have been pre-planned and pretty well thought out. We'll see who gave the tours that gave the rioters key information on how to get to Nancy's office and other places. This was a job that had help from the inside. Totally different.

 

Not at all. Unlike some I can differentiate between a peaceful protester exercising their first amendment rights and a rioter. so this narrative that butt hurt conservatives" keep spouting about how the left was supporting criminals is pure partisan bullshit. You won't get any argument from me that any looter or arsonist or vandal or anyone physcially attacking cops should be arrested tried and jailed. And not much from other leftists and independents either.

Can you perhaps explain to me why Trump's DOJ HASNT investigated ANTIFA and BLM (two entirely different things but I;m not surprised you don't know that)?

Has'n't you Dear Leader had the authority to order any investigation? yet for some reason he has totally ignored going after the evil lefists that he insists are destroying the nation. Are you suggesting he simply ignored this (according to him) existential threat to Murka? Are you truly accusing Donnie of dereliction of duty? Or just being too busy playing golf and whining about how victimized he is.

Logic is not a trumpian strong point obviously if this is the kind of butt hurt justification his die hard partisans are offering up. Works great in the bubble but becomes pathetically laughable on the outside.

Oh - you might want to do a tad of research about how many "rioters" were arrested and charged over the summer. Gonna take some time to go thru the court system, but I'm sure the DA's will rack up an decent score.

 

I believe the answer is neither.

The opening post gives two extreme options.

Maybe, in some cases, they should have been arrested for trespassing, if they were grabbed at the time they were trespassing. But to go after them after the fact for that seems a little heavy-handed.
Of course those who committed theft, needlessly committed vandalism, or physically attacked someone without provocation, should be punished appropriately.

Although what they did was, of course, wrong, I do believe what they did overall was well intentioned, in a way, although also stupid and done out of ignorance.
Apparently they did not realize that the Constitution they love so much decentralizes the power of electing the President to the states. So the US capitol really should have had nothing to do with the election dispute, in this situation.

(There is one thing Congress could have potentially done, and that is decertify electors, and demand that individual state legislatures pass into law who the electors are that the state is appointing, which would kind of have "forced the issue", but that is another subject)

 

thank god the people that matter in this country are busy removing these murder-lust monsters' freedumbs.

 

you want yours to get away with anything all the time and always point fingers in futile blamemongering like the Left are bad people lol

 

I will also point out that conservatives as a general group are a lot quicker to let this mob be thrown to the wolves than progressives were to want to allow the antifa/BLM rioters to be thrown to the wolves.

(I am not insinuating that is necessarily good or bad, I think it has both good and bad aspects)

 

Killing a cop is generally considered a crime. But for the loving and wonderful white supremacists that support tRUMP, I suppose it's not.

 

I would encourage conservatives here not to respond to the trolls who try to bait them and use disingenuous and outrageous language.

 

OT or trolling? This isn't about antifa/blm.