The people who stormed the capital are.......

Then provide the post numbers where you proved IQ is only used by racists. Go ahead, still waiting for them.

 

Non science. Nothing to explain. Lunatics, prostitutes and self promoters. The list in Wikipedia has more likely losers, like trump.

 

Show me where it’s used and supported by science. I gave four references where it was not. Not my problem you can’t read them.

 

So, you claim that their racist, but you can't prove that they're racist. Got it. Per the norm with you.

Just an fyi, giving four references of where it was not used does not in any way shape or form prove that Mensa International is a racist organization. I can easily reference places that don't use it also. And a lot more than just 4. So if that is what you linked to previously then you haven't proven anything.

Btw, you may find this interesting. Let me guess though...racist? lol LINK: MIT Technology Review ~ DNA tests for IQ are coming, but it might not be smart to take one
Scientists have linked hundreds of genes to intelligence. One psychologist says it’s time to test school kids.

It even has two points of view on it. The way a good article should be. Its highly informative and gives pro's and con's to such technology. I agree with all of it.

 

It’s simple. Racist don’t want to know science. It takes them out of control. You won’t even read the science references from the AAAS...

Biden has elevated science to a cabinet position. It’s about time. Maybe stupid ideas like IQ testing won’t go the way of the dinosaur like it has in the science community.

 

Give me the link. Did you bother to read my link? Where actual geneticists and psychologists speak?

 

I posted it twice if not more. I did my research, do yours. Mensa is not science. It’s BS.

 

You still know nothing about scientific consensus...I just hear woo woo. Look up the position of the AAAS on IQ tests, the military and even the basic “popular science” reference. This stuff is free.

 

You actually gave a link ?

 

People die and buildings get burned in support of ideologies, ideas aren't bloodless.

 

https://www.edweek.org/education/co...lly-biased-for-black-pupils-placement/1984/02

IQ tests are racially bias. Using them as a general measure for intelligence is therefore, racism. All any tests can do at most, is measure selected skills in defined areas. This is a defining Court case back in 1980s that redefined the role of IQ tests.

and later..AAAS published article
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/04/what-does-iq-really-measure

 

I agree... the 'bushman' would have a much higher likelihood of being the survivor in that situation, and, I never once wrote anything about myself having "superior intelligence". I pointed out that the latest genetic research related to human intelligence holds that the East-Asian (Oriental) race has the overall highest IQ -- which, does rather strike a blow against any "White Supremacist", doncha' think?

I have not, did not, do not now, and will not defend "MURDERING" anyone in "cold blood". As I've said about a hundred times already, the Minneapolis ex-police officer who caused the death of George Floyd has been duly accused of relevant crime(s), will stand trial, and if found guilty, will suffer the consequences of appropriate punishment. AND THAT IS A VERY GOOD THING! Oh, and for about the hundredth time, I'll add that those who illegally invaded the Capitol Building and committed crimes there should be charged, tried, and punished also....

Summary: You have failed to point out even one thing I wrote that is incorrect, BUT, I have nevertheless completely failed to convince you of anything. A classic but by no means uncommon "failure to communicate" -- especially in this rotten, stinking, miserable 21st-century.

Now... I suggest that we try to return to the good idea of getting firearms out of the possession of "criminals and crazies", and let's hold a hope together (however momentary it may prove to be) that Joe Biden can provide an "armistice" in the ongoing political 'trench-warfare' in this country, and then find the ability in himself to rise to a greater height of comprehension and competency than he ever has before.

 

I'll close my discussion with you with a suggestion you may be capable of agreeing with, eventually.

Things get better, or, they get worse. Nothing stays the same. Mankind has wanted a better "this" and a better "that" from the very beginning -- so, mankind set about the process over centuries of trying to achieve a continuing dynamic of improvement, in everything. Why not in himself...?

The process of doing so doesn't HAVE to be cruel, painful, angry, miserable, or tyrannical. It only requires dedication to IMPROVEMENT, in everything, and the relentless elimination of IGNORANCE. See? It doesn't have to involve being 'mean' to anybody....

Suggestion: if mankind is going to survive on this planet, we must find a way to improve ourselves, or we will destroy ourselves. We could get away with much of our simpleminded behavior as a specie when we numbered only about one billion just two hundred years ago -- but today we number close to EIGHT BILLION. Look at the world around you, Dagosa... how much longer can we continue on this trajectory?

Have a lovely day.

 

The trajectory was establish by Trump, as far as deaths and a terrible economy. You have 24 hours to wait before you can start complaining again that Dems aren’t moving fast enough to. clean up Trump’s and the gop mess, again. This time, more Americans are dying then in all of Bush’s wars and 911.

 

I've actually already read that article. The court determined that the school did not take appropriate enough measures to ensure that their testing did not discriminate. It did not say that given the tests themselves was racist. Additionally it was about placing people in "educable mentally retarded" classes. It says nothing about using IQ tests no longer being allowed to be used for gifted classes. In which such tests are still used.

How a test is used =/= equal weather the test itself is racist. Those are two separate things. If used appropriately an IQ test is quite valid to use and not racist at all.

Thanks for providing it. However it did not say that IQ tests are racist nor does it say to not use them at all. In fact it says:

So Ms. Duckworth wants other tests used in conjunction with IQ tests. Which only makes sense to me. IQ tests only measure one thing after all. People are made up of more than just our IQ after all.

 

Yes, post# 229. It even says "LINK:" in the title of the link so its easily able to be recognized as being a link.

 

Ha ha
You’re beautiful.

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This is really funny. Did you actually read the article ?
It refutes the whole idea of “Robert Plomin, a behavioral geneticist, says that’s exactly what’s coming.”

this is really funny. Thanks for providing more proof.

 

You really are stuck in limbo aren’t you. You can’t even read what IQ tests are ?

 

Really, do you know who made up the first IQ tests ?
Do you really think they weren’t race bias ? Your poor understanding is really on display here.

 

Sure, Trump and all the racist separatist are into IQ testing. I’m still waiting for you to name any corporation, accredited school or US govt agency that uses IQ testing to hire anyone. Still Waiting.

 

You will make no greater headway with this one than I did, I'm afraid, @Kal'Stang . Might as well 'cut your losses'....

In summation, for their sake of their own internal, feel-good tranquility, I hope none of these 'woke' race-dogmatists ever read anything that Charles Darwin wrote....

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It's simply the hypocrisy of the left, BLM and Antifa are 'woke' whilst these pro-Trump rioters are 'brainwashed', Nazis and white supremacists.

 

IQ tests are not -- by themselves -- used as recruitment 'filters', dagosa. There are many different and various tests germane to each venue to determine entrance or participation qualification, and ranking. Thus, a competency test for entrance into a university may be very different, and broader in scope than a test guaging one's ability to perform a set of functions in a Fortune 50 corporation. An important part of my function as a lower-level manager in one of those Fortune 50 corporations was, indeed, the hiring of my own staff... and, strictly speaking, you're right -- we never used IQ tests for selecting permanent employees.

IQ tests are indicators, dagosa, of one's propensities, for the ability to assimilate information, develop thought processes, and use syllogistic reasoning to assess worth, use, actions, and reactions to stimuli. To make manageable and more streamlined the hiring process, the resumè is essential in discovering the basics of what has person has achieved, what that person's interests are, and provide indications regarding suitability for the position being applied for -- but not (NOT) 'intelligence' itself....

Critics of IQ tests maintain that they are invalid because they don't properly include 'societal environmental factors' in the determination of intelligence, and they denounce "White Supremacy" or "privilege" as the chief reasons that Blacks typically score lower in IQ tests.

But, where did this "White (or 'Yellow') Culture" come from?! Settling throughout Eurasia after the human 'diaspora' from Africa many millennia ago, the ancestors of Caucasians and East-Asians were living at a "Stone Age" level of civilization, very much like their antecedents in Africa. But what happened during the passing of the many subsequent centuries? EVERYTHING that led to modern science, medicine, architecture, mathematics, physics, and thousands of byproducts of hundreds of new technologies that made those Eurasian societies more hygienic, efficient, comfortable, better-nourished, successful, and safe to live in!

And even this "White European Culture" was at a lower level than that of East-Asia. Indeed, the Chinese Empire(s) were the most advanced in the world until finally eclipsed by Europe (generally speaking) during the Renaissance. Meanwhile, the tribal societies of Sub-Saharan Africa were carrying on as they had been for many thousands of years, living at either a "Stone Age" (or maybe up to a "Bronze Age") level of development, depending on how much contact these insular societies had with other cultures in the 'outside world'. But for nearly all, there was no written form of language, and not even 'the wheel' until it was introduced by the nearby Arab civilization into what is known as Ethiopia.

I'll pause there and wait for a reply to a simple question: did you ever wonder WHY all of this happened the way it did? If it was just an 'accident' of human development (or the lack of it), could such an 'accident' have had such a continual, enduring dynamic effect through so many thousands of years if it weren't related to the civilizations themselves -- the "who" and "what" they were...? Did the genetic makeup of the races of human beings involved have a bearing on what they actually achieved as a civilization? Have their "IQ's" played a determining role in what they DID or DID NOT accomplish...?

 

Exactly. The name is misleading. It DOESN'T TEST INTELLIGENCE overall. It only test the intellect used to answer the questions and only if the questions are correlated to the expected tasks used by the employee, can it be it be useful. You do that, you may have a suitable “ aptitude test”. IT DOES NOT TEST OVERALL INTELLIGENCE .

No one has to explain how a football play who might never be more then average on an IQ test, can read defenses and make quick decisions enough to multitask effectively. The items on standard IQ test don’t even approach the intellect needed to be a skilled professional athlete, or even a skilled hunter or mountain climber or even find your way using “dead reckoning” in the deep woods without a compass. . Physical performance and intellect are much more related then we ever thought possible.