The people who stormed the capital are.......

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The people who stormed the capital are.......

  1. Patriots trying to save America, and do not deserve to go to jail

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  2. Seditious traitors who should be tossed in jail as long as the law allows.

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    79.3%
  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Big difference. ANTIFA is an ideology not a group and BLM has a ligit history of promoting non violence where thousands demonstrate with few instances. The MAGA crowd is white supremacy based with KKK, and everyother delusional idea you can think of to keep themselves afloat. QAnon is a group conspiracy based crazies waiting for the next coming of an equally deranged idea that Trump, alien invaders and check out counter tabloids are some how all related. Nope, your false equivalence is totally inept.

    A group that’s AGAINST fascism can’t be on the same plane as one that promotes it.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Antifa isn't a group? Really? I'd suggest that you tell that to all those people that group up wearing Antifa symbols. Don't think that they got your message.

    And no, BLM does not have a legit history of promoting non-violence. In fact the very first time BLM was introduced they rioted over Zimmerman being acquitted.
     
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    And even you can wear a ribbon supporting the fight against women’s cancer or an emblem saying you can support the political fight against fascism .
    Your comments are unfounded, mine backed by the fbi.
    So, you support fascism ?
    https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...ays-antifa-is-an-ideology-not-an-organization
     
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    they're a Patriotic club of hobbiest who kick the crap out of Fascist luvn goons. problem?
    lol if Zimmerman had been killed instead the rioting would still be going on over a hater dying by a black kid's defense.
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    You are not wrong, that is true.
     
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    Being “ not wrong” is a close as I’m going to get to being right I guess.
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    I'm not denying the connection there. I'm just saying education isn't the solution so much as money is.
     
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    I don't care what the FBI director said. If we went by your logic then Al Qaeda is just a movement/ideology. That the KKK is just an movement/ideology. That religion is just a movement/ideology. That the US government is just a movement/ideology. Etc etc. Its nonsensical. Fact of the matter is that there are groups of people claiming to be Antifa. That makes them a group no matter what twisted logic is used to try and deny otherwise.

    And while Antifa may claim to be against fascism, they use tactics that are straight from a fascist handbook. Suppressing speech, political violence, etc etc...those are things that Antifa has used and tried to do. Which makes them fascist. You don't fight fascism with fascism.

    So, do you support fascism?
     
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    Name me the last time a white person was killed and was rioted over. Go ahead. I'll wait. But I won't be holding my breath.
     
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    I guess one can steal, inherit or play basketball, act or sing for the money or play the lottery. Otherwise, education is the pathway for the vast majority of us, and the most dependable. It’s a prerequisite for the retention of your wealth for most also.

    Most Wealthy people are still more likely to further their education. Money doesn’t make you better educated on its own without the effort but being better education can easily, make you more wealthy.
     
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    how many murdered whities would it take for them to riot over? so few happen they can't even remember the last one so they just drink beer.
    maybe 3mos ago a trumpet terrorist got killed but it's inconclusive who did it.
    that could be the first jerk killed by Leftists vs 500 murdered in the last 25yrs by unhinged right wingers.
     
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    No, I support antifa. That’s anti fascism. So, it’s you who support fascism, not me. Look it up.
    So far, you have nothing...except, you don’t care what most adapt law enforcement agency in the country says.
     
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    In other words you're just spouting out your butthole.
     
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    And yet you couldn't debunk what I said. And if you support Antifa, then you support fascism because they use fascist tactics. Actions speak louder than words.
     
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    you're not fluent in buttspew after 5yrs of it? lol
     
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    Nope, but you obviously are. :shrugs:
     
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    People are saying they are to blame. I'm so impressed at how so many trumpists can see thru those evil leftist's disguises. And here I was thinking all those people waving trump flags, screaming "the president invited us", "stop the steal" and worse "Hang Mike Pence." were self harming.

    I almost had an existential crisis of identity, Thats for the emotional support.
     
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    That’s your opinion without fact. Anti FA says, anti fascism.
    So, a pink ribbon to you means you support more cancer in women. How does one get off on voluntarily being wrong....;)
     
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    Yup. When they build their belief system on lies, it’s hard to be a rational acting humanoid after that.
     
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    Like I said, actions speak louder than words. And it is not an opinion that Antifa groups use violence and that they try and stop people that they disagree with from speaking. Which are fascist tactics.
     
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    Platitudes instead of evidence is a sure sign you’re on the losing end of any discussion.
     
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    Actions.....Antifa is an umbrella term to describe left-leaning groups that typically confront neo Nazi and pro fascist groups.

    There was a group that confronted pro slavery groups. They are abolitionists. Antifa has the right to speak also.
     
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    I'll let rest with this: those who commit crimes should be arrested and face prosecution under the law... period, the end! White, black, yellow, brown, and any other color that commits crimes!
     
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    That statement I can agree with. And add, those who conspire in the commission of a crime, like Ted Cruz and all the elected lie spreaders who promoted criminal activity should be prosecuted too.
     
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    You're serious? Or terrible sarcasm on your part?

    What crime is committed in entering a building by breaking windows and knocking down doors?
    And killing a cop?
    On the USA Capitol? If a foreign group of people broke into the Capitol, that would be considered an act of war.
     
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