The right's disingenuous treatment of Joe Biden

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    How many thousands of times by the right have we heard them claim 'dementia' about Biden?

    In the 90s, I was a caregiver to some dementia patients in a home for the mentally disabled, and, I assure you, Biden doesn't have it. If he were to have it, it would have began some 20 or so years earlier in his life, and the condition would be in full bloom by now, and there is no way in hell he could have delivered the SOTU with flying colors.

    What the right does is follow Biden around, and out of hours of video, clip only those moments where he, like any person his age, trips over words, and then they stitch all those 'senior moments' into one long video and deliberately make him look 100x worse than he really is.

    Below are two videos, one of Michael Douglas talking about Biden, who is only two years Biden's junior.

    Thee second video is Trump talking about Gettysberg, and it's not clipped, which is to say it's not a disingenuous stitched together series of clips deliberately made to sound worse than he is. This is the real Trump, a total idiot.

    And now, the truth:



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    NARRATOR: ... who is still working recently appeared on CNN and noted he's only two years younger than President Biden

    DOUGLAS: I think that I walk a little similar to him, and the people that I've talked to and everybody that I have to say... he's sharp as a tack ...he's fine... we all have an issue with memories and as we get older we forget names-- something he's overcome a stutter in his life and sometimes he might [suggesting it might reoccur occasionally]....but let's just say that his his entire cabinet including his vice president everybody says they would be more than happy to work with him again in the next term. I cannot say that about the other candidate running because nobody in his in his cabinet from 2016 wants to be involved with him. It is true


     
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    Because it is true. Biden cannot make it through most speeches without stumbling through his words. He heads off the wrong direction on stage and he trips over sandbags. Actually, I am not convinced he tripped over the sandbag because the sandbag did not appear to be a location that would trip him. He tries to shake hands with people who are not there. He stumbles going up and down stairs. They even changed the way he enters AF One so that he does not have to go up the longer stairs. He asks permission from his handlers to say something.

    Then he either lies a lot or he is very forgetful of events surrounding his own life.

    What Trump does or does not do does not change what Biden's fitness for office. Neither should be president.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Biden was replying to this thread, he'd have to read it off a teleprompter and it would go something like this
    "thanks for the support pause I appreciate it, also where am I again"
     
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    Who told you this? What makes you think that in order for Biden to be somewhere on the cognitive decline slide of the dementia process, that it would have to have started 20 years ago and be in "full bloom by now"?

    This claim does not make a lick of sense. I suspect you heard a tiny tidbit of information about this process and are now misapplying the application of what you heard.
     
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    Someone sure is obsessed with Trump...
     
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    Just look at the way Biden walks. Head down slightly and does not swing his arms. That is characteristic of someone concerned about falling. Likely, unless someone told him, he might not even be aware of what he is doing.

    I have peripheral neuropathy. When I visited a VA doctor, she said that was characteristic of someone who has peripheral neuropathy and is unconsciously concerned about tripping and falling. I was not even aware of the fact that I was doing it.
     
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    Biden is in mental decline -- that is what we all see and hear for ourselves. Some deny it, like Michael Douglas, which makes me wonder about Douglas. Some admit it and call it for what it is. I guess we see what we want to see, or we see an 81-year-old man in mental decline and refuse to be honest with ourselves.
     
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    So we still have folks questioning whether or not the Resident has dementia? You'd think we would be well beyond that point.
     
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    Its hard for someone to defend biden, arguing that he's been treated unfairly by the right, without being raging hypocrites.
     
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    Well, the salient point is that he does not have Alzheimer's or dementia.

    I"ve worked with elderly who did have it, and it takes years for these conditions to be so taxing that a person cannot function, and I, nor do experts, see that Biden has any evidence of it.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/bidens-memory-issues-draw-attention-neurologists-weigh-rcna138135

    Copilot summary:

    Neurologists say forgetting names or dates with age is normal and doesn't indicate memory disorders. While older brains may struggle with new information, decision-making can improve. Concern arises when recent memories are fuzzy. Overall, cognitive benefits come with age, like emotional intelligence. President Biden's memory lapses are not necessarily concerning, according to brain experts.
     
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    I find it a waste of time to have an adult conversation with people who resort to and traffic in cheap shots, failure to substantiate claims, rant words, grandiose assumptions, weasel words, cavalier broad swipes, hyperbolic characterizations, snarky one liners, useless hypotheticals, sarcastic retorts, loaded terms, thought-terminating cliches, tired tropes, questions with assumed premises, etc., etc.
     
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    Thanks for the opinion. I am a caregiver right now for my wife who is a stroke victim. Prior to the stroke I knew she had some dementia likely resulting from some minor strokes before the disabling one. I was even present when the doctor gave her a cognition test which she failed. But she wasn't "mentally disabled." She had early stages of dementia and lived a normal life. She didn't need a caregiver.

    I see exactly the same things in Biden that motivated me to have my wife tested. He certainly has dementia in my opinion. It isn't bad enough to be put in "home for the mentally disabled" but it does get in the way of his doing his job. That is why our federal government is being administered by the white house staff instead of the president. Your opinion is rejected. My opinion which differs from yours isn't definitive either. He needs to get a cognition test and won't for obvious reasons.
     
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    I think I would try keto if I was Biden

    "How KETO Improves BRAIN Health, from ADHD to Dementia"



     
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    How in the world can anyone listen to Biden, watch his movements, and still claim he's sharp as a tack.
     
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    I agree, both Biden and Trump are too old to be President imo

    but those sadly our are choices
     
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    Good Ole' Joe, he's gonna clean up! Once he doesn't drown in MAGA tears, all will be good.
     
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    yep, could be something as simple as insulin resistance which many Americans have - and it's not only the body that can suffer from this metoboic sydrome, but the brain too
     
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    It takes a "special" kind of person...

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    The White House physician for President Obama said Briben is not fit to be President.
     
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    All it takes is a liar. All they have to do is piss on your boots and convince you it's raining.
     
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    Coming from "someone" who is there very definition of ""traffic in cheap shots, failure to substantiate claims, rant words, grandiose assumptions, weasel words, cavalier broad swipes, hyperbolic characterizations, snarky one liners, useless hypotheticals, sarcastic retorts, loaded terms, thought-terminating cliches, tired tropes, questions with assumed premises, etc., etc.""
    This "someone" even thought he would be cute and make a less than mature chart to show us all can "do as I say, not as I do" blast from the past..

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...suppression-law.596522/page-3#post-1073222421

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    Voices . Some of the stuff I read here is mind blowing.
     
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    rump checks almost all those boxes
     
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    Pretty well every single one! :)
     
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    I sold an Alzheimers drug for many years. I too have experience with this condition and I have been trained extensively on the various forms and manifestations of dementia.

    You used the rationale that it would have had to have started 20 years ago, and that does not make a lick of sense.

    Yes, Alzheimers can be a 15 or 20 year process, from first signs of cognitive decline to atrophying into the fetal position which is the end game if a person is unfortunate enough to live to that point. For the record, even if he does have dementia, we do not know if it is alzhemiers, vascular etc, and these different manifestations have differing courses and time frames.

    In the early stages of Alzheimers specifically, you start out with mild cognitive impairment, then moderate, then ultimately severe. If Biden did have dementia, he would clearly be in the mild cognitive impairment state, and nobody is implying otherwise. It would not have had to have started 15 or 20 years ago for him to be in mild cognitive impairment. Your statement truly does not make a lick of sense.There are all kinds of people that are in the early stages of this disease process, and if Biden does have it, he clearly would be in the early stages. For you to insist that it would have to be 20 years in the making is simply not true or even logical.

    For purposes of being president, it really does not matter whether he technically does or does not have dementia. What matters, and what is obvious, is that he is too damned old and feeble both physically and cognitively to be president. To say that he has lost his fastball is an understatement. A person that has lost their fastball has no business being President. If he were an executive at a corporation they would have ran his confused butt out of town well over a decade ago. Many people said the same thing about Reagan late in his term, and by golly, it did turn out to be dementia. You could not have proved it during his term, he was still mild, but suspicions were there. To pretend like there is not legitimate suspicion with Biden is just detached from reality. Whether it is normal forgetfulness due to aging or early dementia, he is not fit to be President in either case.
     
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