The right's disingenuous treatment of Joe Biden

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  1. Uriah

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    The White House physician during the Obama administration said Briben isn't fit to serve as President.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The same was true of Reagan later in his term, but no one on the right declared he was unfit for the office. However, it's a democrat.....

    Besides, is there any reportage of Biden having a stroke" No. unless you are a trained clinician with a post graduate degree, did your internship, etc., etc., etc.,, we are not qualified to make such a determination.

    But, of course, don't let any chance for exploitation and twisting of the truth stop anyone on the right from forwarding a political agenda.

    And I'm wondering why you guys even care considering every time Trump opens his mouth, something stupid is released into the atmosphere.

    one time a few months ago I was about to introduce a lady friend of mine, whom I've known for 50 years, (I'm 73) to this person we met, and it took me about 5 seconds to remember her name. When you are older, we experience these senior moments in varying degrees. Are they dementia? No, they are not.

    I could follow any elderly person of 80 years around, produce many 72 hours of tape, and clip out all the senior moments and stitch them together and make anyone 'appear' to have 'dementia'.

    That's disingenuous, and the right should be ashamed. But, of course, no low point is too far to steep when it comes to forwarding the right wing agenda.

    Right, fmw?

    Of course I'm right.

    Biden has had a lifelong struggle with speech problems, but it's not dementia,

    https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-appears-superager-doctors-say-1858473
     
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    Well, Shooter's mother in law had dementia, she lived with us for 4 years before she passed. Her dementia first showed up 5 years before it killed her, so your claim of years is a bit inaccurate. The average is 8-10 years but it can be much shorter.
    Dementia life expectancy: Duration and stages (medicalnewstoday.com)

    But here's the other thing; if biden doesn't have dementia, that says a lot about his intelligence, doesn't it? You should maybe go ahead and call it dementia. At least then it isn't because the old boy is dumber than a hammer, eh?
     
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    You are so spot on! It's literally like looking at night and day.

    I have seen plenty of other times where Trump rambles into incoherence and I wonder how his minion can deny the inevitable. The only thing that comes to my mind is that they too must speak in gibberish like Pentecostals speaking in tongues moved by the Holy Spirit. It only makes sense to them, but to the rest of us its a sign of a medical issue.
     
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    Wrong but you are incapable of changing your mind so I'll leave it at that. I don't recall mentioning Trump at all in my post. But then at my age memory becomes an issue.
     
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    The point the OP is making is in contrast to Trump. TFG has a medical propensity to develop Alzheimer's because Fred Trump had it too. One cannot view Trump's videos and not see the signs are worse for him than Biden.
     
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    Amazing comment. Who is TFG?
     
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    The Former Guy, aka Trump.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Horse puckey. I have had similar moments, and I can think clearly, as can Biden. I once, introducing my GF to someone, almost forgot her name, yet I can think clearly and my writing is evidence that I do not have any senility.

    I could follow any 80 years old with a video cam, after about 72 hours of footage, stitch all the senior moments together and make anyone look like they have dementia.

    Are you a doctor? No, you're a caregiver, you dispense meds, as did I, that doesn't qualify me or you to make these diagnoses. No way in hell does Biden have dementia. His state is normal for his age. Quit being a partisan hack .

    And why do you care, given that just about every word the evacuates Trump's lips, something stupid comes out? That is NOT true with Biden.

    Every one of his former staff supports him for 2024.

    The vast majority of Trump's staff DO NOT.

    Now put that in your pocket and pull the trigger.

    Quit being a partisan.
     
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    For goodness sake. The man has arthritis. Unless folks on here are medically qualified , their assumptions about Biden's mental capabilities and physical health are just amateur assumptions based on their biases. Those who have wrorked with seniors that have dementia have more knowledge and experience with these conditions. The R/Trumpians just want to discard him into the past in their usual sadistic manner. They don't take the time to find out what his health issues are....(like the arthritis that affects ambulation, and can be a chronic source of pain. The R/T have no problem justifying their hero's psych problems that make him unfit for the job. The mere fact that he repeats himself continuously, without making any statements of substance does not bother them at all.
    Bottom line: The T/R group have little credibility.
     
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    Look at the video of Trump on the OP, and we know who the hypocrites are.
     
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    If you were trained at that facility you'd know hat dementia presents in many different forms and symptoms. And doctors spend decades of study and research identifying and treating those manifestations. Call it whatever you want but the fact is he's not going to improve and choosing him to be President for the next four years is the most egregiously partisanship vs citizenship maneuver you could undertake.
     
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    what is your source for this comment from the WH physician?? Did he elaborate with details ?? what are they??
    Medical personal do NOT usually make such politically charged comments. They stick to medical facts as anything else is unethical.
     
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    New excuse. Arthritis does not cause him to look down while he walks or to quit swinging his arms. We don't need professionals to see that there is a lot wrong with that man.

    I don't want Trump as president either. Neither are fit to be president.
     
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    You condescendingly ask if I am a doctor.....ARE YOU? Apparently, in the recesses of your mind, you are qualified at making this determination, yet no one else is, unless they agree with you of course, then all of a sudden they are capable of making this determination. This much I can tell you, having sold for many years an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor which is an Alzheimers med, I can guarantee you that I have FAR more formal training on dementia than at least 99% of the population, and I have in fact discussed dementia symptomatology and varying patient types with doctors countless times. I am not trying to claim this makes me an expert by any stretch of the imagination (you are the one bogusly trying to make that claim about yourself because you did a little volunteer work), but my experience and formal knowledge of the subject UNDOUBTEDLY surpasses your knowledge. I say all of that not to claim expert status, but rather to correctly discount YOUR bogusly claimed expertise.

    What I have said is there is legitimate suspicion, and there most certainly is, there is nothing there to legitimately argue. Even many Democrats have expressed this concern which is why the whole Gavine Newsome stepping in narrative even exists and why even a segment of Demcorats want him removed from the ticket.

    In truth, I approached you not because of that topic, but rather because you made this RIDICULOUS claim that in order for him to be in mild cognitive decline now, that means he would have had to have dementia for 20 years which is just silly. That statement is indefensible, and indeed, you have made no attempt to defend that statement. The only thing you have done is avoid that topic which is the actual predicate of why I responded to you.
     
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    So we can assume that this "former" WH physician did not examine Biden and simply made an opinionated comment. He also worked for Trump.
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    When Biden's physician comes out and has a press conference (with Biden's permission) and outlines Bidens medical / physical, psychological status..... only then will the into have some credibility.

    Outside of that , all we have are layman's observations based on their experiences with their elderly family members. or others.
    Biden has never been an outstanding orator. He still has residual symptoms of speach disorder that he had as a youth. He overcame most of it and it only shows up a little when he is under target or stress. (or angry)
    It seems that many are more concerned about his "image"... which , yes, is elderly and not as dynamic as a JFK , But then very few have the oratory , charismatic qualities of a JFK. ( and he was assassinated anyhow.)
    Just because Biden does not boast about every singe thing he does (wasting time ) does not mean the job he is doing is ineffective. He has the challenges of a highly resistive RW group , so getting anything done takes longer.
     
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    Obama's physician observed Briben for 8 years. Briben also refuses to take a cognitive test. You democrats are going to have to face reality soon. There's no way out of it.
     
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    Trump is also in decline, but Trump supporters are blind to it. His recent mumbling about Gettysburg was yey another example.
     
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    I suppose you have no objection to forcing the Orange Oaf to take a test, too?
     
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    Evidence, please.
     
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    such as those who refer to Trump as tRump or "orange mango" orange menace, "traitor" etc?
     
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    the sad thing is Biden has always been a dolt. bottom of every class he took, failed the Delaware Bar exam the first time he took it. his main "skill" other than coming from a minor league state where the competition is minor, was that he got along with people. Two friends of mine-one who was a senator, another a congressman both said people liked Biden-they just didn't think he had much in the brain power department. and I have heard that for decades. Long before Biden really was on the national radar (part of the defamation of Judge Bork was where people first learned of Biden en masse) I had a professor who once taught at Syracuse note that Biden was 69th in a class of 66. IN reality Biden was 69th of 75 and that was only because he begged the dean to allow him to redo a class he had flunked for committing plagiarism and when that B erased the F, he was no longer the very bottom of his class
     
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    Has he suggested researching injections of disinfectant to cure a virus?
    • Bringing “ultraviolet light inside”?
    • That planes are invisible?
    • Raking leaves stops forest fires?
    • You can redraw a hurricane track with a sharpie and no one would notice
    • Revolutionary troops stormed the airports
    • Mispronouncing Yosemite
    • Thighland instead of Thailand
    • Nambia instead of Namibia
    • He met with the president of the Virgin Islands
     
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    They don't see the videos you see because they only watch liberal media. The liberal media says he is sharp as a tack and that suits their preference.
     

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