Thousands of Greeks join far-right Golden Dawn rally video

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  1. Sab

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    Yoyu are claiming that All bolsheviks were Jews? Lenin and Stalin Jews? I don;t think so.
     
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    Lenin's grandfather, Israel Blank, was born about 1804 in Staro-Konstantynov, Ukraine, to Moshke (son of Isaac) Blank, a Jewish businessman, and his wife, Miriam.

    Leon Trotsky..AKA...Lev Davidovich Bronshtein...

    Oy vey

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    Out of every 10 senior members of the Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine:

    6 were Jewish,
    2 were Russian,
    1 was Ukrainian, and
    1 was other.

    Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

    We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

    Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly.


    "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system.


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    Would you accept it in a love song?
     
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    The majority of Bolsheviks were Jews, or should we say the majority of the leaders and founders were Jews. Lenin was partly Jewish, but Stalin was not. Later on Stalin turned on them, and they were persecuted quite severely. During the war the Germans would automatically kill the commissars because they were Jews... or at least they assumed they were.

    When Russia annexed part of Poland, the Jews began moving into Russia. These Jews were not Russians, they were German Jews, and came in with ideas from the enlightenment...for their own benefit of course. The Tsars tried to contain them in Poland, but it only brought more resentment and that led to terrorist attacks by the Jews. Alexander III's father was killed by a suicide bomber, so he started to force them to leave. This is when they began immigrating to Israel as well as the U.S.
     
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    Ilya Ehrenburg was born in Kiev, Russian Empire to a Jewish family.

    He understood himself as a Russian, and later as a Soviet citizen, but left all his papers to Israel's Yad Vashem.

    He became a Soviet cultural activist and journalist who spent much time abroad, as a writer and a propaganda agent for the Soviet government.

    As such his loyalty to Communism and to Stalin's regime never failed, not even during the great purges, although he knew too well what was happening inside the Soviet Union. He also never expressed criticism or uneasiness about the oppressive nature of the Soviet regime, the brutal suppression of political dissent, the forced collectivization or any other crimes perpetrated by the Soviet system. Until the end of his life he remained faithful to his Marxist and Leninist credo.

    During the war Ehrenburg became a leading Soviet columnist, widely read by front-line Red Army soldiers. Controversy rages still over his propaganda exhortations to Soviet soldiers. The most famous occurred in the fall of 1944, at the time of the first Soviet advance into East Prussia and the Nemmersdorf massacre, when the Germans alleged he incited Soviet soldiers to kill civilians and rape women. The Germans presented the following as direct quotes from Ehrenburg: "Kill. Nothing in Germany is guiltless, neither the living nor the yet unborn," and, "Break the racial pride of the German woman. Take her as your legitimate booty

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ehrenburg


    More random coincidences
     
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    There have been many communist societies, the Amish for one, so to say it's a Jewish concept is absurd. It works well when people are charitable and community minded, but most people who advocate communism do so for their own self serving reasons, whether they be Greeks, Russians or Jews. As for internationalism and the elimination of borders and national states, well the Muslims believe in that too, only they want it under a caliph, sultan and sharia law.
     
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    Free translation because some of the words do not exist in English and fascists suck even in syntax

    Comrades , it is unheard that the traitor professional politicians are selling out ELVO ( Greek arms industry) and EAS (something similar) those who help in armament ( whatever the worm means with it) .
     
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    What I said stands. No one who had ever studied Marx or the Russian Revolution - I studied both at degree level would believe a word of what you say.

    If this site has simply turned into a conspiracy theory site, where the Latest News is regurgitating Nazi Propaganda and lies, then although it may have last night amused me for a moment that you could so earnestly be presenting conspiracy theories, genuinely it would seem believing they were the truth, when any educated person would know are nothing but Nazi propaganda, simply I guess shows the lack of education of current posters, or more likely that they have left this site as conspiracy theories on the 'latest world news section' shows a lack of integrity in a forum and suggests the forum itself has become a conspiracy site.

    That is all that needs to be said.
     
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    ]The majority of Bolsheviks were Jews, or should we say the majority of the leaders and founders were Jews.

    You can list all teh Bolshevik leaders and founders can you along with their religion?
    So you can name 2 Bolsheviks and no doubt Trotsky. what about all the otyhers
    There have been jews in southern Russia for centuries.
    Israel didn;t exist until 1948 The tsars couldn't contain them in Poland since most were in Ukraine or Southern Russia.
     
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    The Amish aren't communist. They own their own farms.
     
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    Owning your own farm is not against the principles of communism as far as you don't employ workers
     
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    Of course it is. In communism farms are communally owned.
     
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    An old mate from college in London lives in Culver City.
     
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    Indeed, just like Golden Dawn whom you seem so keen to view as an 'ally' because they profess to be Christian. As I recall Hitler, another nationalist whose tactics Golden Dawn appear to emulate and admire, also professed to be a Christian. As I also recall America joined the rest of the civilised world in ridding us of the vile insanity of Nazism; and yet you're keen to support the same in Greece.
    You wouldn't be a tad confused here, would you?
     
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    Actually they are not; the state owns the farms (as in Soviet Russia), and the land is farmed by the occupiers who pay a tithe to the state in the form of farm produce, a proportion of which they keep for themselves, as well as receiving regulated wages from the state.
     
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    In Soviet Russia the Kolkoz were collective farms.
     
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    yep

    This is from the Soviet constitution of 1930

     
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    The Amish.

    :roflol:

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    Prove me wrong
     
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    No sir, just convicted.

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    No sir, just convicted.
     
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    Yes, the 'christian' Nazis were also convicted-at Nuremberg. Now you want to succour and champion their descendants because of some vague, tenuous link to christianity, most probably enunciated for purely political purposes-just as the Nazis did. How very 'christian' of you, not to say myopic.

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    Yes, but they were owned by the state, not by the farmers.
     
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    I am SICK of hearing about Nazi's in 2013. Every single time, that is what it comes down to, Godwin's Law, over and over.

    It's not German National Socialists who are the biggest threat to the World, is it? No. So why waste time every day, speaking about German National Socialism.
     
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    The Golden Dawn does not consist of people descended from the naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews.

    They reject that association and to be frank, their word has garnered far more respect from me than yours ever will.
     
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    At least they are doing something, rather than placing their trust in yet more criminals.
     
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    Because people need reminding what happens when far-right groups come out of the woodwork and take power, that's why. The Germans were oh so grateful to Hitler, ignoring the malevolent lunatic's predilection for slaughter. Didn't do them much good in the end, did he?
     
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    No.

    People are never done being 'reminded'. What people really need to do, is wake up, and deal with what is in the here and the now.

    With what is the REAL threat to all of our lives.

    What use is there singling out one aspect from years ago, forgetting every other aspect, and being ASLEEP in the here and now?

    What does that actually achieve?
     

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