Trayvon Martin: Typical teen or troublemaker?

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  1. johnsmite

    johnsmite New Member

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    I think it's one of many things that show that George Zimmerman's stories are full of fecal matter.
     
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    Well, a FACT here, is he was in custody within 20 seconds. So please tell us what he did in these 20 seconds that is sketchy?
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    You are confusing bruising with lavidity. Bruising is what occurs between live cells and requires pressure.
     
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    Not to mention they require a beating heart to pump blood to bruised areas
     
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    The stories some of you come up with are entertaining. Have no facts to back them up, but entertaining to say the least.

    Of the evidence I have seen, Zimmermans story ads up. Anyone expecting Zimmerman to recount every move of that encounter are not being realistic.

    What I do find interesting is that his parents are not being held accountable at all. Here we have a boy on school suspension. He obviously is not grounded to his home or he would not have been out. Given the rash of crimes in the area, he was also allowed to venture out, alone, at night, in the rain, while meeting the description of the burglary suspect. That was a grand decision now wasn't it?

    It is sad when anyone loses their life. It is real sad when we have parents that don't parent, then when their own lack of parenting results in tragedy, they want to lay all the blame on someone else.

    I have no dog in this hunt. I have followed this case because I saw some of you condemn Zimmerman before any evidence was released other than the misleading photos. I find that repulsive.
     
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    And stop immediately as there is no pressure. What minor "leakage" there might be would not produce pronounced bruising and there would be no clotting as in a bruise the fluids would drain to the lowest point.

    Bruises from events immediately prior to death will become apparent after death.[/QUOTE]

    Levidity sets in but not necessarily depending on the area and injury. A body that is damage post-mortim may show signs which appear to be a bruise but are just damages to areas where blood has pooled. But once you are dead and the pressure drops you no longer bruise.

    You know nothing because nothing you said isn't indicative of anything, may or may not occur. He could be alive and not have a visable bruise, he could have broken the nose with blow from his palm at an angle he did not incur an injury from it. You can' t make a statement of fact that Martin did not punch based on a lack of a bruise even if he were still alive let alone having died within a minute of striking Zimmerman.
     
  7. Sadanie

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    I guess you do not realize that cells continue to live for sometime after the heart stops beating, and the brain stops functioning! It takes some time before cells are starved of oxygen and die.

    If you can't read a scientific article and understand what it describes, it is your problem, not mine.

    I do not care a bit if you continue to revele in false assumptions. . . .I did what I could do to provide you with FACTS. If you refuse to consider them, it really doesn't matter to me!

    The fact is that the forensic evidences WILL BE BASED on scientific facts, not on your "assumptions!"

    By the way, the word is "lividity," not "livadity." And this is a phenomenon that happens as the blood pools AFTER the death and may LOOK like bruising.

    However there are techniques to differentiate ANTE and POSTpartum bruising. The details are included in the article below.

    The salient point in Trayvon Martin's autopsy is that NO BRUISING, either antepartum or postpartum bruising was present!

    Which simply means that there were no signs that Trayvon Martin's killer EVER caused bruising by trying to hit him or hurt him in order to "be free from the supposed struggle," and that Martin didn't suffer any bruising during the "struggle." If any had been observed during the autopsy, they would have been qualified as "ANTEPARTUM." (or before death)
    It also means that he didn't suffer any injuries (bruising) AFTER his death, during transportation to the morgue. If he had, those would have been analyze and classified as POSTPARTUM (or after death)

    It would help your agenda if you could at the least keep track of what is being said and if you were able to read scientific facts without getting all mixed up in the meaning, and even in the spelling of scientific terms.

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    I guess you do not realize that cells continue to live for sometime after the heart stops beating, and the brain stops functioning! It takes some time before cells are starved of oxygen and die.

    If you can't read a scientific article and understand what it describes, it is your problem, not mine.

    I do not care a bit if you continue to revele in false assumptions. . . .I did what I could do to provide you with FACTS. If you refuse to consider them, it really doesn't matter to me!

    The fact is that the forensic evidences WILL BE BASED on scientific facts, not on your "assumptions!"

    By the way, the word is "lividity," not "livadity." And this is a phenomenon that happens as the blood pools AFTER the death and may LOOK like bruising.

    However there are techniques to differentiate ANTE and POSTpartum bruising. The details are included in the article below.

    The salient point in Trayvon Martin's autopsy is that NO BRUISING, either antepartum or postpartum bruising was present!

    Which simply means that there were no signs that Trayvon Martin's killer EVER caused bruising by trying to hit him or hurt him in order to "be free from the supposed struggle," and that Martin didn't suffer any bruising during the "struggle." If any had been observed during the autopsy, they would have been qualified as "ANTEPARTUM." (or before death)
    It also means that he didn't suffer any injuries (bruising) AFTER his death, during transportation to the morgue. If he had, those would have been analyze and classified as POSTPARTUM (or after death)

    It would help your agenda if you could at the least keep track of what is being said and if you were able to read scientific facts without getting all mixed up in the meaning, and even in the spelling of scientific terms.

    And just to illustrate this point in a manner that may be more accessible to you, here is an article that reveals that Nathalie Wood's autopsy revealed that SHE HAD ANTEPARTUM BRUISES ON HER FACE PRIOR TO THE TIME SHE DROWNED.


    Once again. . .Trayvon Martin's autopsy DID NOT SHOW ANY ANTEPARTUM OR POSTPARTUM BRUISING, although LIVIDITY WAS PRESENT!
     
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    Let's get Crump under oath and get to the bottom of this witnesses sudden late appearance.

    Motion to depose Crump:

    http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam.../zimmerman-motion-deposition-crump-021313.pdf

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    They do indeed and they are constant with the Zimmerman lynch mob. It's a sure sign of frustration over the evidence not going their way at all.
     
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    Its about time OMara did some work, don't you think? They have spent $380 K in the past ten months.
     
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    He's finally starting to get evidence out of the prosecution and he got rid of a lousy judge.
     
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    No kidding. This is the part I don't get. How does a shorter, older, chubby white Hispanic guy chase down a leaner, taller, MUCH faster black teenager? Its basically impossible;) If T was truly running away and fearing for his life, he would've been safe in his home and nothing would've happened. The only way to catch up to someone in that scenario is to shoot a moving target in the back in the dark, which didn't happen. FACT! T was not running away or fearing for his life at all.
     
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    Lousy? Do you know the judges in Florida?

    Don't forget that George and Shellie lied to judge Lester.
     
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    o'Mara s now begging for an extension on the SYG hearing. Too funny.
     
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    He's stalling for donations. They have to pay the security company they stiffed.
     
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    Have you noticed something?
    Windigo NEVER bothered to post a copy of the comment he attributes to me, where he "pretends" that I said that George was Jewish.
    And you know why? Because such comment DOES NOT EXIST!

    First, I have NEVER been interested in the race, ethnic background or religion of either of the two people involved, neither the victim nor the killer.

    Second, if anyone had even mentioned that George was Jewish, I would have laughed, because, even if his father is Jewish, his mother is obviously not. And, unless George CONVERTED to judaism (and it is a long process!), he would NOT ever be Jewish, since his mother is NOT Jewish!
    Being well aware of this "clause" in the Jewish tradition (I have several very good friends who truly are Jewish) I would have NEVER in a million year made such a comment!

    And, since I have absolutely no prejudices (except I must admit that I am prejudice to stupidity!), even IF Zimmerman had been Jewish, It would have been a moot point to me!
     
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    Do you? LOL!!
     
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    If they admit that TM could have walked or ran home, but chose to circle back, then they know it's game over for their little fantasy. The wounds on GZ match his statements.
     
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    Such an interesting answer! Great contribution to the debate! Thank you! :roll:
     
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    You mean "George is cruising with his gun.. black teens get off the street"?
     
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    Every kid has a right to defend themselves from armed attackers.
     
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    I can't believe you guys! You are spinning every word I say!

    First you accuse me of being racist because I "thought" Zimmerman was Jewish (which I have NEVER said and I never believed. . .and NO ONE can post a comment where I said such a thing because that comment doesn't exist!)

    And now you are attacking me because I don't believe Zimmerman is Jewish, based on the Jewish tradition that I am well aware of, and tht is supported by the link I offered!

    Make up your mind! In your mind, am I racist because I am judging Zimmerman harshly because I "thought" he was Jewish?

    Or am I racist because I do not believe Zimmerman can possibly have fulfilled the requirement for being Jewish?

    The pettiness, lack of logic, and all together bad faith of your little gang would be sickening if it wasn't that ridiculously funny!

    Get a life!

    I do not have to prove or disprove that I am or am not racist. . .If the people I respect in this forum cannot figure out whether or not I am racist or prejudice about ANYTHING, it is because they do not read my post.

    OR. . .because they are stuck in a mind set and determine to find something wrong with me, and to call project their own prejudice on me.

    And NO PERSON whom I respect would do that. . .so what others think is of absolutely no consequence to me!

    Get off my back, and stop baiting!
     
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    You're funny!

    Oh, was that a personal attack?
     
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    Nope. Thats a compliment. Thanks! Plus rep!
     
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    What is an attack in the expression "get a life?"

    You are baiting. Leave me ALONE!
     
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    I never thought George was Jewish.. Did you?

    Why would that matter and why do you keep accusing others of believing George is/was Jewish?

    Seems quite irrational to me.
     
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