Trump employee tells FBI that Trump directed boxes to be moved at Mar-a-Lago after subpoena served

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  1. bx4

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/12/politics/trump-employee-fbi-mar-a-lago-boxes/index.html

    “A Trump employee has told the FBI about being directed by the former President to move boxes out of a basement storage room to his residence at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump’s legal team received a subpoena for anyclassified documents at the Florida estate, according to a source familiar with the witness’ description.

    The FBI also has surveillance footage showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room, the source told CNN.”

    Ok know that many trump supporters will dismiss this as “fake news” without giving it any thought. But they do that all the time and then some time later it is proven to be true. And in this case there is even a video of the documents being moved. I doubt the source would make that claim if it weren’t true.

    So let’s deal with this as a hypothetical: assume it is true. What does that mean?

    To me it likes a pretty clear case of obstruction of justice. Trump gets a subpoena and then he, personally, gives an instruction to prevent the documents that are the subject of that subpoena from being turned over. He ordered documents to be moved so they wouldn’t be found.

    I really don’t see how this is anything other than obstruction of justice.

    That won’t prevent the MAGA crew from defending him.
     
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    Lol any evidence the boxes contained classified info and didn’t just contain his personal effects?
     
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    The fact that the FBI found classified documents in his private quarters when they executed a search warrant a few weeks later is evidence.
     
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    No it’s not. He could have had those there the entire time. He may have had his porn stash in those boxes he had that “employee” move.
     
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    To not charge Trump with obstruction would be a crime. He has snubbed his nose at everyone and his transgressions need to be addressed.
     
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    He could have. So it isn’t conclusive. But it is evidence.
    And let’s take it as a hypothetical. If he did in fact instruct an employee to move classified documents in order to ensure they weren’t found and handed over, can you explain that as anything other than obstruction of justice?
     
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    According to a source familiar with the witness description? This is an anonymous source who is familiar with the witness who claimed boxes were moved?
    So they won't describe the source or the witness? lol
    How many times are you willing to carry this kind of water for CNN just to wind up with egg on your face?

    Not even ONCE has a CNN story with an undisclosed source been true in the last 5 years.
    They have run so many fake undisclosed sources and been caught so many times, their ratings tanked losing over 80% of their viewers over it. And you have the guts to claim all their undisclosed sources have been true?
    What planet do you inhabit? Most Americans and advertisers have now abandoned CNN. They have lost most of their anchors over fake news. Where have you been?

    You haven't seen any video and you don't even know who this source familiar with the witness description is but you doubt they would make a claim if it weren't true?
    man, you got it bad.
     
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    Not once has a CNN story with an undisclosed source turned out true? Wow you really have drunk the koolaid.
    Not once has such a story turned out to have been fabricated.
     
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    Fine, provide one.
    GUARANTEED you won't.

    Has everyone heard the new news? CNN didn't lose over 80% of their viewers and most of their advertisers and most of their anchors with ratings below Nickelodeon and the Cartoon channel because
     
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    Of course but you’d have to be able to prove he did so in order to ensure they weren’t found. Which nobody can do.

    Unless he wrote out a note to this anonymous employee saying like, they’ve got a subpoena I need you to move these boxes so they can’t find the stuff inside.

    Which you don’t have.
     
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    It’s your claim that they’re all fabricated. You prove it.
     
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    No they would just need to prove that he knew of the subpoena (which he did - there’s no dispute it was served) and then he ordered someone to move documents that were subject of the subpoena away from the area he allowed to be searched for those documents. Preventing the documents from being found.
    As predicted, MAGA rushes to defend him.
     
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    And btw. If he was trying to hide them. Why the hell would he send them to his house and not some random property he owns in Botswana or something and have them buried in the ground?

    Nah this dumbass employee is asserting he wanted to hide classified documents… at his house lol…. In boxes…. Marked classified lol

    So either he’s retarded, in which case that doesn’t say much about the democrats who have been trying to convict him for going on 7 years now and failing in spectacular fashion. Or that anonymous source is full of ****.

    Given the FBI’s track record I’m going with their “source” is full of ****.
     
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    Of course we rush to defend them. Y’all are fishing for a crime and have been for 7 years lol
     
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    Except - there was a subpoena and he didn’t turn everything over. Lots of government documents, many marked classified, WERE found at MaL.
    How could that happen if he had complied with the subpoena?
     
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    Because as the evidence list clearly shows, those documents they found were mixed in with a bunch of other stuff.

    The most likely explanation is that those documents were packaged with all of his other stuff when he left office by some low level nobody and he had no idea those documents were there in the first place.

    Are you under the impression Trump personally knew what was in each one of those boxes?
     
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    Oh, so you can't even find one single undisclosed CNN sourced story that was true?
    But here you are claiming Not once has such a story turned out to have been fabricated.
    I appreciate your willingness to concede so quickly.
    And I am more than happy to enlighten you with a history of fake CNN news

    CNN sources revel the officer at the capital was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher
    CNN has confirmed the existence of video of hookers peeing on Trump in a hotel
    CNN sources show Melania was a paid prostitute
    CNN sources revel Kavanaugh was an alcoholic high school serial rapist
    CNN has discovered that the Covington Catholic kids are all white supremacist
    CNN sources revel Russian Hackers Invaded the U.S. Electricity Grid to Deny Vermonters Heat During the Winter
    CNN sources revel Trump Aide Anthony Scaramucci is Involved in a Russian Hedge Fund
    CNN sources revel Russia Attacked U.S. “Diplomats” (i.e. Spies) at the Cuban Embassy Using a Super-Sophisticated Sonic Microwave Weapon
    CNN sources revel Trump Created a Secret Internet Server to Covertly Communicate with a Russian Bank
    CNN sources revel Paul Manafort Visited Julian Assange Three Times in the Ecuadorian Embassy and Nobody Noticed
    CNN sources revel Cohen Would Testify that Trump Knew in Advance About the Trump Tower Meeting
    CNN sources revel Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke is a KKK member
    CNN fakes interview and interviews own cameraman
    Hospital CEO wins major court victory after CNN fakes statistics
    CNN sources revel border patrol officers whipping immigrants
    CNN sources revel Oklahoma was overwhelmed with people overdosing on Ivermectin
    CNN sources promoted Jussie Smollett’s claim that he was attacked by two MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporters
    CNN sources revel Kyle Rittenhouse crossed state lines with a gun
    CNN sources revel Jan 6 was a white supremacist armed insurrection
    CNN sources revel Trump attacked the Secret Service to commandeer the Presidential limo
    CNN sources revel Trumps vote fraud expert is registered to vote in 3 states
    CNN sources revel mass resignations at the State Department
    CNN sources revel Trump installed a gag order against the EPA
    CNN sources revel all Trumps loans are signed off by Russian Oligarchs
    CNN Explicitly Lied About Lanny Davis Being Its Source – For a Story Whose Substance Was Also False
    CNN inside source revel Robert Mueller Possesses Internal Emails and Witness Interviews Proving Trump Directed Cohen to Lie to Congress
    CNN spent six months claiming that all 17 intelligence agencies agreed Russia was behind the hacks until they were forced to retract


    CNN ‘Journalist Of The Year’ Quits; Admits He Wrote Fake News for years
    https://newspunch.com/cnn-journalist-admits-fake-news/
     
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    So when do they bring charges against Trump? Hurry up already.
     
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    Well, he must be innocent and "exonerated"! Investigations---especially when they're obstructed---take time.

    This response becomes more and more weak and lame.

     
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    Has anybody released what was actually in his possession in Florida that he wasn't supposed to have? If so, have charges been filed?
     
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    Yes. Correct.

    People that have not yet been proven guilty are assumed innocent.

    Let us know when they get a conviction.
     
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    If they were containing personal effects, then why move them to another location?
     
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    A. They have to wait for the Special Master and that should end by the end of October and no later than the end of November.
    B. Once the Special Master is done, then they have to resolve the petition in Judge Cannon's court, which should end in December sometime.
    C. I have predicted that they will wait until AFTER the November 8 Election, more like January, before Trump declares himself as a nominee for the GOP.
     
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    I provided mine. Wheres your stories of CNN undisclosed anonymous sources that were true?
    Since you claim so many were, should be easy for ya.

     
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