Trump employee tells FBI that Trump directed boxes to be moved at Mar-a-Lago after subpoena served

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    A "trump employee"? Why didn't CNN name them? It sure sounds fishy though. Why would the FBI admit to this, publicly, since this is, as I believe an open investigation? I thought Wray promised us that this wasn't going to happen?
     
  2. Condor060

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    Were you ever going to back up this post
    Or are you just all talk? Lets find out who is drinking the koolaid.

    I provided you with fake CNN stories as requested. Now its your turn.
    And you can't come up with ONE CNN undisclosed anonymous source story that was true?
    Thats pretty much what we al thought
     
  3. Reality

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    Its not just obstruction, but it is also obstruction.

    This is a clear violation of the espionage act, even under the Comey/Clinton interpretation which is not the proper interpretation and is far too lenient.
    Trump gets subpoena for classified docs, Trump tells staffer to move them from their normal place and even money says staffer has zero clearance at all.
     
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  4. bx4

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    Your claim was that CNN ran a story that claimed an anonymous source said Sicknock was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher. The clip you posted said the opposite.

    Fo ahead and post a link to a CNN story that relied on anonymous sources, that has later been proved to be a fabrication. You haven’t done it yet.
     
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    How do I prove a negative? You’re the one who says that every CNN story that relied on anonymous sources is fabricated.
    So go for it. Choose one. Any one. Link to the original CNN story and show it has been fabricated.

    And here’s one, based on an anonymous source, that did turn out to be true.
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/04/politics/wh-lawyer-told-trump-flynn-misled-fbi-pence/index.html

    That was easy. And it proves your assertion false.
     
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  6. jcarlilesiu

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    I already did. Where were you?



    That was public information before CNN did a story on it. And you know exactly what I'm talking about so you can stop with the deflections.
    CNN stories, Not stories they repeated from other media sources. CNN STORIES

    Try again
     
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    Just wow, you can be sold on just about anything.
    If what I posted was the exact opposite, name the person who told CNN that Sicknik died Thursday “due to injuries sustained while on-duty.
    I'll wait
     
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    Show me where the story says what the boxes contained.
     
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    That is the impression they've given of the case, and honestly the jerkyll and hyde is confusing even for me. On one hand, they call Trump incompetent, stupid, etc doesn't read the reports.(Which BTW is another interesting sub-plot to this. The man who had no interest in intelligence briefings, has interest in these secret documents.) and on the other hand, he's this criminal mastermind.

    I can't congruently put together these two caricatures of Donald Trump.
     
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    The CNN story expressly said he was NOT killed by being beaten with a fire extinguisher. The opposite of what you claimed.
     
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    Name the person who told CNN that Sicknik died due to injuries sustained while on-duty.
     
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    Well, Trump said that Mar a Lago was as secure as the WH. Second, the timing of the boxes being moved may show suspicion. According to the informant, they were moved after the August 8th FBI search of the premises for those classified documents. So, if they were just personal effects, then why move the boxes to begin with from an alleged secure location.

    Finally, this site shows just how culpable Trump is with the documents already seized in a valid search warrant. It says,
    https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/...nvolvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/
     
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    Because no one would ever move personal effects around their own property...

    I know everything in my house sits exactly where I put it the day I put it there and I've never moved it.
     
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    Mar A Lago is more than just a residence. It is a membership club, a hotel, etc. There are plenty of people there who are not immediate family members of Trump or the Secret Service Agents assigned to guard the former President and his immediate family. But the point you missed was that the boxes were moved AFTER the search. So, to put it to you this way, if the FBI just searched your garage for drugs and that is the only area where they searched, then why would you move your drugs inside your bedroom to another location to begin with?
     
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    Actually they were moved after the subpoena was served, and before the search took place. He ordered the boxes moved so they wouldn’t be found when the search was conducted.
     
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    They were moved after the subpoena, but before the search warrant was executed, from what I understand.
    And that's just what has been revealed. I suspect there was more activity and witnesses to more than just one person moving one box.
    Again, if there are charges brought forth, there will be a lot more information. I think we are seeing only the tip of the iceburg.
     
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    Did he Bleach Bit them?

    Dems’ Daddy Issues J6 Charade Isn’t Winning Hearts and Minds. “The dream was that the focus on J6 would distract from the fact that a loaf of bread now costs $475 and that the Oval Office is occupied by a guy who can’t string three coherent sentences together and is often seen shaking hands with phantoms.”

    [​IMG]

    'According to a Harvard CAPS / Harris poll released late last week and a new New York Times / Sienna poll, not even the January 6 Committee’s promise to subpoena former President Donald Trump will save them. As the polls demonstrate, almost no one cares.'

    'The disconnect was apparent when CAPS-Harris asked what voters care about. For registered voters, the top four issues are

    1. price increases/inflation,
    2. economy/jobs,
    3. immigration, and
    4. crime/drugs. '
    'According to this analysis, approximately 7% of registered voters were interested in the final January 6 hearing. Anti-climactic, to say the least. Even race relations, continually hammered by the administration and Democrats, earned only 6% when voters told CAPS-Harris about the country’s most critical issues.'

    Seems like too many Dems are sidetracked from the issues of the Electorate.

    'Their disdain for the average American has been duly noted and will soon be addressed.'
     
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    Who the **** keeps their pornstash inaccessible?
    Who the **** keeps their pornstash in a room with dozens on dozens of classified documents?
    Who has an employee move their spank bank?
     
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    "An aide to Donald Trump was seen on a security camera moving storage boxes at the former president’s Mar-a-Lago residence. According to The New York Times, Walt Nauta was spotted transferring the boxes from a storage room both before and after the Justice Department issued a subpoena in May

    requesting the return of all classified material and documents retained by Trump after he left the White House.


    It is unclear if Nauta is the same aide in as The Washington Post’s Wednesday report, which says an unnamed staffer moved boxes “at the specific direction of the former president.” According to the Times, “it is not clear whether that employee was Mr. Nauta, and a person familiar with the matter and with Mr. Trump’s orbit said it could be a different staff member.” The Times said the footage “showed Walt Nauta, a former military aide who left the White House and then went to work for Mr. Trump at Mar-a-Lago, moving boxes from a storage room that became a focus of the Justice Department’s investigation, according to the people briefed on the matter.” It is unclear if those boxes are the same that were picked up by the FBI during its Aug. 8 search.

    Read it at The New York Times


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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/donal...camera-moving-boxes-at-mar-a-lago-report-says
     
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    Anyone know if the FBI did subpoena Mar a largo security footage for a 2nd time?


    DOJ Wants Mar-a-Lago Footage, as Trump Considers Making ...
    https://www.newsweek.com › ... › FBI raid › Florida


    Aug 22, 2022 — Federal authorities are reportedly seeking Mar-a-Lago security footage after recovering more than 300 classified documents from former ...

    Snip:

    "The Department of Justice (DOJ) is reportedly seeking Mar-a-Lago security camera footage two weeks after federal agents raided former President Donald Trump's home.

    Federal authorities recovered over 300 classified documents from Trump since January, including a significant number retrieved during the August 8 raid, according to a Monday report from The New York Times. The DOJ acquired security camera footage from Trump's South Florida residence on June 22 and is now seeking footage from the weeks leading up to the FBI raid, people familiar with the matter told the newspaper."
    "
     
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    Day after day Trump just makes up lies as he goes along.

    Trump Says US Agency Packed Top-Secret Documents. These Emails Suggest Otherwise.

    "A federal agency worked with Trump staff to move the boxes that were already packed and loaded on pallets, emails show"
    Oct.5,2022

    https://archive.ph/VuMzg
     
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    So I know I’m getting on topic again but I’d just like to point out that it appears the ONLY classified documents that have been verified were within Trumps possession were the letters he PERSONALLY wrote to Kim Jung Un and a letter Obama wrote to Trump. Which he had a right to assert were his property.
     
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    Wrong. There’s something like 100 documents marked classified that were seized in the search.

    And as for those two letters, they were written by and to him in his capacity as president, so they belong to the office, not to him personally.
     

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