Trump employee tells FBI that Trump directed boxes to be moved at Mar-a-Lago after subpoena served

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by bx4, Oct 16, 2022.

  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No... It's YOUR claim they ALL turn out to be true. So the burden of proof rest squarely with you.

    As for the OP content itself in general.... Oh my God they moved some boxes around? Well holy s*** fire Watson... This proves everything!
     
  2. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    because no one would ever move boxes around an estate unless they obviously contain classified information....... Maybe where this kid lives?


     
  3. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,334
    Likes Received:
    12,699
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The only thing you have proven is that YOU, not CNN, makes up stories.

    Let’s take your first example: “CNN sources revel the officer at the capital was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher”
    Here’s their story.
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/19/politics/brian-sicknick-death-us-capitol-riot/index.html

    They reported he died of a stroke. Please provide a link where they claimed that an anonymous source said he was bearer to death with a fire extinguisher.

    I was not aware of the CNN reporter who got fired. Thanks for that. But you will note that he did get fired once his lying came to light, and it was one of his own colleagues who exposed him.
    That shows integrity within CNN.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2022
    Bowerbird likes this.
  4. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,093
    Likes Received:
    74,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    He had them AFTER he had been served a subpoena
     
    bx4 likes this.
  5. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,093
    Likes Received:
    74,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Boxes - move them don’t move them - no problem

    Classified information that is stored in them……..
     
  6. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    In the land of make believe you have the " evidence"......

    Of course not. People with your sort of confirmation bias don't require any evidence. Some boxes were around in a big giant estate that probably has boxes moved around every day..... It must be very unusual to see boxes being moved around... Therefore we know it must contain classified information because they move some boxes around
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2022
  7. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,093
    Likes Received:
    74,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Sorry but a search of the property only need “reasonable suspicion” and they found classified documents even though Trump had claimed, through his lawyers there were none
     
    bx4 likes this.
  8. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well somebody heard from somebody who saw someone move some boxes around so that's clear-cut evidence right there .....

    It requires an extreme amount of confirmation bias along with gullibility to just assume what would be in the boxes.
     
  9. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,093
    Likes Received:
    74,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And NARA? They KNEW there were missing documents
     
    bx4 likes this.
  10. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well by golly that just must prove that they were in those boxes then...

    Along with the money that DB Cooper took and Jimmy Hoffa's body
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2022
  11. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,231
    Likes Received:
    63,413
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if true, he should go to prison... but we know that will never happen

    at this point, I think we dodge a bullet if just the man is never President again, let's hope he doesn't run again
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2022
  12. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,334
    Likes Received:
    12,699
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But what if it is actually proven? What if the DOJ can prove
    - that the boxes contained classified information
    - trump received the subpoena (this is already not in doubt)
    - that he ordered the boxes to be moved from the storage area to his private residence
    - that he permitted a search of the storage area to comply with the subpoena, on his assurance that that was the only place that any documents responsive to the subpoena were stored.

    How is that NOT obstruction of justice?
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2022
  13. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You have a whole lot of ifs and speculations.
    Get back to us when you have something more than someone saw some boxes being moved.

    Those boxes might have DB Cooper's money in there maybe even the body of Jimmy Hoffa.
     
  14. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    12,949
    Likes Received:
    6,727
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Probably because he didn’t want the fbi stealing and accessing things like his taxes and medical records.
     
  15. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    12,949
    Likes Received:
    6,727
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And?
     
  16. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,334
    Likes Received:
    12,699
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok. So you aren’t even prepared to entertain the possibility that trump may have committed a crime. That is simply inconceivable for you. Your devotion to him is complete.
     
  17. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm more interested in actual facts that you can prove.... Not your emotional opinion and your hypotheticals.

    Right now all you have is your nothing burger that someone moved boxes around.... But that's enough for you!

    The jury of Bx4, has reviewed the available evidence and determined that because boxes were shuffled around that he must be guilty so off with his Head!

    Congratulations.... Your critical thinking has been completely suspended in lieu of your confirmation bias.
     
    ShadowX likes this.
  18. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,334
    Likes Received:
    12,699
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not just that someone moved boxes around. That someone was instructed, by trump, to remove boxes with confidential documents from the area that was going to be searched for the subpoena.
     
  19. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,396
    Likes Received:
    49,694
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you just like fabricating complete BS?
     
  20. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    15,334
    Likes Received:
    12,699
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That’s what the story says. I didn’t make it up.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2022
  21. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,930
    Likes Received:
    8,877
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Each of your suggestions are illegal when in possession of classified information so you need to try again
     
  22. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    12,949
    Likes Received:
    6,727
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol yeah so is jaywalking
     
  23. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,127
    Likes Received:
    14,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah, that's Trump's defense in a nutshell.
     
  24. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2020
    Messages:
    4,157
    Likes Received:
    3,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You know, you're right!
    In the 2020 election, there were a few fools who saw video of boxes being moved and said it was proof of voter cheating/fraud, which turned out to be complete bs, so it's entirely possible that the video, and accompanying testimony are off base, and are waiting to be "proven".
    Until they can prove, or verify, that the informant and video are what they say they are, it only looks bad. I did read a while back that there were more than one informants.
    Probably a wise move to wait to get worked up over this, one way or another. This is why I hope they charge Trump, so the facts can be all laid out and examined as to their merit. Hopefully that will happen soon.
     
  25. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Really? If that were true you would be disputing them instead of falsifying information about the ones you looked at.

    Well this was easy
    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/02/11/brian-sicknick-death-audio-perez-ac360-vpx.cnn
    CNN claims there is a murder investigation as Sicknik collapsed at his office right after being sprayed with bear spray which killed him.

    CNN —
    Prosecutors in the US Attorney’s office plan to open a federal murder investigation into the death of Brian D. Sicknick, a US Capitol Police officer who died Thursday night, a law enforcement official tells CNN.

    Sicknick was injured Wednesday when a mob of President Donald Trump’s supporters stormed the US Capitol. He died at approximately 9:30 p.m. ET Thursday “due to injuries sustained while on-duty,” Capitol Police officials said in a statement.

    Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries

    “Officer Sicknick gave his life protecting the United States Capitol, and by extension, our very democracy, from violent insurrection. His needless murder at the hands of a mob bent on overthrowing the Constitution he had dedicated his life to upholding is shocking

    https://edition-m.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/capitol-police-officer-killed/index.html

    CNN Repeatedly Claimed Capitol Officer
    Sicknick Died Due To A Fire Extinguisher Hit…
    Now They’ve Quietly Admitted That May Not Be True.

    https://www.lucianne.com/2021/02/07...etly_admitted_that_may_not_be_true_53450.html

    Your claims are as fake as CNN. The story made it clear, the reporter quit, wasn't fired. It also uncovered the following

    It’s not the first time a journalist linked to CNN has admitted to producing fake news. According to Amber Lyon, a three-time Emmy award winning journalist, CNN was routinely paid by the Obama government, as well as foreign governments, to selectively report on certain events and make up fake news stories. Furthermore, the Obama administration paid CNN for editorial control over some of their content.

    [/QUOTE]
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2022

Share This Page