Trumps great push to reopen schools

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    The problem wasnt with the masking up or lockdowns the problem was the ppl who didnt want to. Everyone saw the photos of packed bars no masks even the demonstrators (both BLM and the reopen ones) played a part.
    Asian countries got thru with no problems because they all were masks when they were out and for the most part they kept away from each other. That by far didnt happen here and that is why I would be against another lockdown since the ppl wont listen anyways.
     
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    the actions cannot be one-size fits all. If east podunk county feels ready to open their schools, then they should. If west butthurt county doesn't feel ready, then they shouldn't. State and fed govt need to back the f off and let local governments set policy including silly masking up
     
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    So if east dingleberry county does the wrong thing sends kids to school and the virus spreads and rolls over into west butthurt county who are trying to do the right things but cant because the dingleberries in the next county over. This is why a national approach is needed. The butthurt just keep getting their butt hurt because of the stupid dingleberries
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    Btw that sounded so wrong lol.
     
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    One school quarantined all students because 1 child was sick. Probably an overreaction. If that is the standard, then we might as well award everyone their high school diploma today so they can apply for college by age 8
     
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    Nations have gotten this under control by acting as nations. What you are seeing, a raging nightmare of a pandemic, is the result of a disorganised piecemeal approach.

    This will go into textbooks as an example of the worst way to handle an epidemic or pandemic...
     
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    I disagree

    one size does not fit all. We were not founded to have a top down govt and there is no justification for it.
     
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    I agree

    Australia with their ineffective lockdowns and masking up didn't work yet they are doing it again.

    Oh, you probably don't want to hear about that, do you? I'm sickened by those who try to politicize a virus. You are so transparent that it's comical
     
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    The science is the science, your fantasy world does not intersect with the real one.
     
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    Trump just wants to take credit for any successes, he does not want to actually lead

    wonder how many times Trump has put out the mission accomplished sign so far....
     
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    Ya ya ya and 5G turns frogs gay, I've heard these wild conspiracy theories before. Debunking pseudoscience is one of the hardest things to do but in general if people want to believe stupid ass **** like 'masks don't work' well then that's their right. But here's the problem you're not recognizing. By choosing to perpetuate this political driven falsehood you are fueling not just the spread of the virus but the machine of fascism that seeks to censor you.

    People don't like being put at risk. Anti-mask, anti-social distance, science-denying, re-open crusade type nonsense puts people at risk. The more that a one set of people claim masks don't work -> the more risk there is of a second set of people not wearing them -> the more justification a third set of people will have to silence that first set. Right now you cant go on facebook or twitter or youtube and spread the lie that masks don't work, they'll straight up strike it down and warn-to-ban you. And that didn't just happen because a few people wanted it that way, just like chain stores such as Walmart Sams Publix Starbucks and so on didn't just institute mask policies because they wanted them. No no, these things happened because of a mass public demand - people don't like being put at risk.
     
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    So you didn't understand that it's to protect your health system, that is, the medical care of you Americans?
    Every health system has its capacity limits and woe if these are reached or even exceeded!

    No pandemic or epidemic in the USA has ever been as bad as COVID 19 ... just the Spanish flu 1917 - 1918 ... which, by the way, if you follow the logic of the China Virus, actually has to be called American flu because it was first in Kansas appeared and then, coming from the Midwest, spread across the world.

    As for the economy ... you can solve it with your brain and mind ... at least a lot. But you really lack it in the USA, because more important is the fight of Dems against Reps, where both of them don't even allow the dirt under the other's fingernails - especially when the presidential elections are pending with all their BS blabbering on both sides and a megalomaniac Trump, who has totally failed in handling the virus and is completely incompetent!
     
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    You exposed your agenda. No person, be it Trump or even a Democrat (sorry to break that to you) can solve the virus. Masking up won't stop it. Good hygiene will go a lot further in slowing the spread than the false sense of security that people have when masked up.

    I've intimate knowledge on hospital capacity
     
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    I did not deny that hygiene is important too ... but with any sort of mask the range of droplet infection ... direct to other persons as well indrect by contamination of surfaces ... is onl 50% as that with no mask ... FACT!

    And when you have inmate knowledge on hospital capacity, then I must not mention the example of ICU units / beds which are limited in every hospital and so on ... as well in general place and number of doctors and staff etc.?
     
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    nice try

    plenty of ICU capacity around here and we have a lot of elderly and folks with comorbidities.

    You can try to cherry pick all that you want to push your Democrat agenda. I do not blame you for trying to seize the virus and make it political; it's an election year and it's politics. What you should not do is push false beliefs such as masking up and locking down is the end all and be all.

    As Trump quickly learned, being POTUS means jack squat. DC is not run by the POTUS. The difference is unlike the prior inhabitant, Trump cannot be controlled and the promise of $millions after he leaves office is not a motivator, he is already rich.

    Sadly, you subscribe to the partisan hackery and it shows.
     
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    Nice ... then look at the hotspots of COVID 19 outbreaks and so on and ask the doctors there how near their capacity limit is reached! it is simply a lie that there would be no capacity problem with US hospitals in general and to paint the situation in a pink fairy tale world f everything is fine.

    Masking is important and I explained why and you in general confirmed the sense of it too. And what is the f***ing problem to wear a mask in public? All this BS blabbering of "my constituional rights are harmed wth it" and so on are all rubbish!
    And about the lockdown ... why are other countries better in handle it as the USA with lesser problems and bad results?
     
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    do yourself a real favor and observe the folks who are "masked up"
    watch how they cross contaminate and touch their eyes, nose, fidget with the mask, but since they are masked up, they are not at risk. It's such crap. Stop picking your nose, rubbing your eyes and be courteous like every other time over all of these years and don't cough toward people. Most important!!!! wash your hands.

    Seriously, go watch the maskanistas and watch them cross contaminate but they are MASKED UP so it's OK

    If you can for one brief moment put aside your political leanings and consider this, do you think a trapeze artist without a net might be a wee bit more careful than one working with a net?

    Masks give folks a sense that they are doing something but the downside is worse
     

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