Wanna buy a volkswagen

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  1. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    Well, aussies who own veedubs should be ok according to one of our illustrious leaders Mr. Truss (aka Trustme)
    He says Australian emission controls are 3 years behind Europe so everythings ok...
    He says so...so he must be right.....trust me.......
    Only 3.....jeez ...it takes us two years to build a roundabout...
     
  2. DaS Energy

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    No no no , Bishop is the Leader look at the photo she posted, there cant be more than just her, she will run and tell Tony on you!
     
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    Volkswagen has confirmed diesel vehicles sold in Australia were fitted with software that can affect emissions.

    The company says more than 77,000 diesel cars sold in Australia are affected, though it is unclear what changes Volkswagen will make to the cars once they are recalled.

    Almost 55,000 passenger vehicles including post-2009 Golf and Polo models with EA 189 diesel engines are affected, along with more than 17,000 commercial vehicles and just over 5,000 Skoda cars.
     
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    'There's a simple rule about doing business in Australia, and that's don't tell lies about your products and services,' Mr Kirkland said.

    'We're calling them out because we think they are telling lies and we want to see that change.'

    Works well for biscuits and baby wipes.

    Did somebody mention Das Auto.
     
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    Volkswagen stone-walling to delay the inevitable...
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    Volkswagen plays down hopes of quick answers over emissions cheating
    Wed Oct 7, 2015 | Volkswagen said on Wednesday it would take time to get to the bottom of its rigging of diesel emissions tests, hours before the carmaker is due to give updates on its findings to German regulators and U.S. lawmakers.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny says dey oughta throw the whole board out...
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    Volkswagen Elects New Chairman of its Board of Directors
    October 07, 2015 - Volkswagen elected its chief financial officer as chairman of its board of directors, as the German carmaker struggles with the scandal of emission test-rigging in the United States.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Somebody goin' to jail over this?...
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    German prosecutors conduct searches in VW emissions probe
    Oct 8,`15 -- German prosecutors carried out searches Thursday in connection with their investigation of the Volkswagen emissions scandal, seeking material that would help clarify who was responsible for the cheating.
     
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    More? Volkswagen contacted, not meet new US emission standards-no market, meet DaS Diesel- date, but became Das Auto!
     
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    VW to recall 8.5m vehicles in Europe.

    Interesting thing Das Auto is desperate to hide its not as if they had no alternative engine they could turn to meet US Emissions laws!

    They clearly and purposely chose to go down the criminal path in offence to every VW purchaser and the Country VW is importing to.
     
  10. waltky

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    Small group behind emissions scandal...
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    Around 20 people behind Volkswagen emission scandal: Source
    Oct 29, 2015: Volkswagen believes that up to around 20 people were involved in its rigging of diesel-engine emissions tests, a person familiar with the matter said on Thursday
     
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    Volkswagen can pat the public on the head till its owners pubic hairs fall out, but the bankruptcy and criminal charges wont go away!
     
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    Luxury car brand Porsche has for the first time been implicated in the emissions scandal damaging its parent company, Volkswagen. Not for the first time, Australian consumers are in the dark about what this means for them.

    The US Environmental Protection Agency on Monday (US time) said that it had discovered "defeat devices" in V6 engines of the type used in the 2015 Porsche Cayenne.
     
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    Brazil fines VW over emissions cheating...
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    Brazil fines Volkswagen $13 million over emissions scheme
    Nov 12,`15 -- The Brazilian government says its environmental protection agency has fined Volkswagen $13 million over the German automaker's emissions cheating scheme.
    See also:

    VW offers some employees amnesty for information on cheating
    Nov 12,`15 -- Volkswagen is telling employees they can come forward with information about how the company cheated on U.S. emissions tests and they won't be fired.
     
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    Everybody I know who own VW diesels don't want them recalled, and will never give them up if they have a choice. They love them.
     
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    Yeap,
    you can drive them as clean as you want, the answer lies in the movement and sensitivity of your right foot......
    Cheerio
     
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    I have NEVER bought a car that was not made in Australia, hey this is my land, the people who work there are Australians. Looks like the Ford I have will have to last me the rest of my life, but then it IS A FORD so it will.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Mate,
    I had two Falcons, which I really liked.
    The sad thing is that both Holden and Ford didn't renew themselves as other manufacturers did.
    For some reason GM and Ford US didn't allow or didn't want them to allow to progress as let say Ford Europe or Opel.
    But hey, that is politics I believe. And our government, both left and right, did nothing to intervene (except for putting money in it, instead of coupling this investment with the demand for more modern designs).
    Regards
     
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    Sorry I am lost
     
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    Refused to allow Holden, Ford and Toyota to engage clean green electricity at one third the tariff of Coal supplied power!

    "No impediment to Coals sales shall be countenanced"

    "Coal is good for humankind"
     
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    Volkswagen rotating staff to improve oversight...
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    Volkswagen to 'rotate staff' to improve oversight
    20 Dec.`15 - German car giant Volkswagen, scrambling to contain a massive pollution test cheating scandal, said Sunday it would begin rotating staff to keep better tabs on its operations.
     
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    Just got to constantly laugh at dumbarse, backward Australians who always believe the parasites they vote into power.

    The parasite politicians keep saying that Australia doesn't have the population size to warrant owning its own car manufacturing operation, and now they say the population is too small to have any car manufacturing at all in the country, and the intellectually backward citizens just go - BAR, BAR, BAR, and believe them. :roflol:

    Its constantly amusing to watch how intellectually stupid Australians keep getting. :roflol: :roflol:

    Unfortunately, these Australian dumbarses have not looked at Sweden, who has a similar population size to Australia, and the Swedish people own two car manufacturing companies and a jet manufacturing company; all doing financially well.

    But hey, Australians are just too dumb and backward to own anything - maybe a lack of intellect is the reason why Australians only sell, and never build or manufacture. :applause:
     
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    Holden did renew itself, the current model is quite a step up from the previous. Ford let the side down by dragging out boring stuff no-one really wanted outside of its existing ans.... and Ford pulling out under the ALP was the nail in the coffin for the industry.
     
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    I was wondering how you would get a jibe in at the ALP. My god Australia would be a perfect utopia if there were only the Libs aye?
     
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    Yep they caught up to Ford. Mate a few years back Holden were just releasing IRS, Ford had it for years.

    Look at what Ford has done for the automotive industry, just about everything.
     
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    One really has to laugh...

    Holden renewed itself??? Ford renewed itself??? Government stopped the car manufactures from advancing themselves???

    Surely, people are not serious about this when they come up with these comments??? Holden, If it could be said, renewed itself when the ALP introduced regulations for the car manufacturing industry to use interchangeable parts in their cars. This saw deals for Ford, Nissan Holden Toyota Mazda to rebadge certain models to meet those regulations. Holden introduced the VN commodore (or to be precise, the remanufactured Opel for the Australian market). Ford doggedly hung onto the falcon (which IS Australia's only real designed car) which has seen the door swinging since 1962.

    I note nobody has mentioned Toyota in the Australian mix, is that because they were producing Hybrid cars in Australia???

    We could go on about the history of car manufacturing in Australia and blame either side of politics for the failure of the industry. BUT if one was serious about loss of the industry, they would be aware of several factors.

    First one of the very reason was under ALP Keating did introduce manufacturing regulations (which was international) to reduce the costs to manufacture but provided opportunity for the industry progress. They did not.
    Second, Australia cannot support car manufacturing on its own. That is to say, Holden for example needed to produce and sell a minimum of 18,000 export units to break even. If you consider that Australian industry has been short on quality in comparison, it could be understood why the continued struggle. Also, as costs increase the need to meet higher export quotas, as the units limits was from 1990’s.
    Third, Extremely poor management which refused to entertain the economic conditions of varying markets and refusal to accept that the industry itself reacts to poor market factors. Management that believed it was bullet proof due to government interventions took no consideration that poor market outcomes being supported by government welfare would become unsustainable as the particular market interest moves away from that sector of the market.

    Basically, IF you want to blame any government for the demise of the car manufacturing industry in Australia, then there is a considerable lack of understanding of how business works. Also, clearly there is indication of lack of understanding of what government is for. Government is NOT in place to tell business or people HOW to do business or WHAT they should be doing. Government is not responsible for poor management or poor business decisions. So attempting to blame them for such is simply demonstration of ignorance of people…
     

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