What do they DO to people like Hillary Clinton?

I haven't read all of what you provided, but I've skimmed a good portion.

The connections between Standard Oil and the Nazies are definitely pretty disturbing.

 

So what's the solution, Jack? Kill the Jews?

I guess we've come full circle. If it's really all a matter Zionist bankers controlling everything, you'd have to be pretty naive to think that it will change in our lifetimes. We can't even change our healthcare system or balance the budget, for that matter.

So, I think I understand now why most people stick with just focusing on their own lives, because it's all you can really change anyway.

 

I'm afraid that Jack doesn't appear to be able to grasp that the motivating factor is money and power not jews per se.

 

Certainly, the link between the Rockefeller owned Standard Oil [Now ExxonMobil and Chevron] is the most disturbing of them all. But still Chase National Bank (At the time fully D. Rockefeller owned) [Now JPMorgan Chase] provided a lot of financial support for Hitler's war machine. Even when it became clear they had waged war on Europe.

More sickening, the Bank of International Settlements (European Central bank at the time) collected millions if not billions in Nazi gold, taken from Holocaust victims. Till this day, that Nazi gold remains in the coffers of the Swiss BIS bank. Imagine!

As you can see, bankers propped up both Stalin and Hitler. They hedged their bets. Siphoned the public and continue to ensnared the public.

 

Know what mate, screw you, you are a waste of time.

 

Address me directly, or do you prefer acting like an online sneak?

 

Supplying military equipment and assuring Syria that they would block any foreign intervention isnt exactly remaining neutral.

 

Well, if nothing else, that definitely makes some of the pro-Soviet people here look rather silly.

If the Cold War was just a matter of bankers manipulating both sides, then there really is no ideological battle left to fight. It's just the same game of the elite vs. the rest of us that the majority of human history has been.

 

Quotes, citations, sources?

 

Indeed it does.

Exactly, history has always been a battle between the forces of good and evil. Elites vs. the rest of the world. This is a well documented fact, from empires that preceded the Roman empire, the Roman empire, and today's global elite who are a cut above the rest.

While this may dishearten you, it really shouldn't. Because UNDERSTANDING the problem is the best way to devise a solution to solve the problem.

We know that it is through financial control that all this puppetry happens, so we must break the financial control. It's that simple. But yet, a heinously difficult task.

 

I've attempted to make you see reason on this until I'm blue in the face, but you continue on with your "it's the jews and Israel who control the US" narrative when the reality is that Israel is unable to act without firstly obtaining the 'green light' from their paymasters to do so. Your misguided contention that all the strife and conflict in the world is first and foremost either the fault of faceless bureacrats who you believe necessarily control and pull the strings of elected politicians on the one hand, or that it's inherently the fault of American and/or Israeli jews and the state of Israel on the other, is plainly a load of old conspiratorial bollox. Until you are able to break free from your tunnel vision perspective on the world, and view the situation in an objective way, your otherwise salient points will be forever undermined.

 

By 'see reason', what you really mean is ignore all evidence that the US are under Israeli control.

Do you still think your vote can change anything, in this country?

Real change.

Not the pap that is passed off as 'change'.

 

Well, I don't necessarily believe the masses are "good". Hell, look at how the masses typically treat minorities and how minorities treat each other.

A quick trip to certain threads at this forum show how hateful and ignorant a significant portion of the public is towards various groups -- whether the scapegoat of choice is Muslims, gays, or the poor.

We're a rather loathsome species, honestly. So, personally, I view it more as evil vs. more evil.

Maybe the real solution is just finding your niche in the system, and then making enough money to retire and get away from the ignorant people that disgust us on a daily basis.

It's a hell of a lot easier, and a lot safer as well.

 

Like Oscar Schindler?

 

How about just the first thing on point in a google search, and you show me your evidence that it isnt true.

BEIRUT, Lebanon — Russia pressured President Bashar Assad of Syria on Monday to be more flexible about the future of his ravaged country, insisting that he talk with adversaries, inviting an anti-Assad delegation to the Kremlin and restricting shipments of new weapons to the Syrian armed forces......
While Russia has insisted throughout the nearly 17-month-old Syrian uprising that it will block any foreign military intervention there, it has shown increasing impatience with Assad.
http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/russia-sends-message-of-impatience-to-syrias-assad/1239538

 

The end of the New York Times(ahem) article, it reasserts that Russia have had a neutral stance, albeit they call it ambivalent.

If Russia sell arms to Syria, so what?

Not like the US are in a position to preach there, is it, since you sell weapons to anyone, including Islamic radicals.

If Russia say they would block foreign intervention, good on them.

Your lot can't get enough of backing Israel.

Why should you be the only country to back anyone?

 

Well, Schindler did save a lot of people. Given the situation he was in, I'd say he was more virtuous than a lot of other people in positions of power at the time.

 

I've worked in international relations and take it from me I know what I'm talking about. The US is the dog and Israel is the tail. The latter never wags the former. The notion that Israel controls the US is farsical.

I've said before, if we elect donkey's, don't be surprised if all we get in return is braying. The combination of apathy and apoplexy implied by your pessimism, plays into the hands of those who say politicians are all the same. But somebody like George Galloway, for example, proves that this is not necessarily the case.

Yes, we don't have enough principled politicians like Galloway who are prepared to raise their heads above the parapit and stand up to be counted, but there are ocassions, albeit rare, when we do. However at such critical times, the electorate rarely vote them into positions of power. This is partly because some of them have been dumbed down by complicit media machine, and partly because the first past the post electoral system is stacked against progressive and independent candidates.

When voters do not see the opportunity of a winning post in site for progressives they either don't vote at all or turn to established candidates. So the first thing is that we need a shift to a system of proportional voting where each persons vote counts. In this way, progressive candidates will, over time, be encouraged to stand for election to fill in the vaccuum left over by established parties.

But in the meantime, we need to concentrate efforts on ensuring people refrain from voting for the donkeys on offer.

 

Look chum, that is twice you have felt the need to tell the internet that you have allegedly worked in international relations.

You would be amazed the volume of former war heroes, spacemen, international jet setters, and once famous sportsmen, that seem to flock to forums.

Anway, am I meant to to be impressed by your boast?

Does your repeatedly stating it, invalidate ALL other evidence, that may be brought that is to the contrary?

And, even if you were in 'international relations', so what?

Seriously.

That merely means you were paid to put on a suit, and be a cog, in some big and ultimately corrupt wheel.

Do you think because you allegedly held some position, that people should look up to you?

That is partly what is wrong with people - they are too quick to devolve what they think, over to 'an expert'.

If, my friend, you were any sort of expert in this field, then you would not make statements like Zionists control the US, but Israel doesn't.

That IS illogical.

 

He was an industrialist, I think his primary motive was labour.

The film is mawkish and sentimental.

 

So you are denying that Israel is a colonial settler stste?

 

The easy and safe things to do, are many times, not the right, moral or honorable things to do.

Throwing yourself on a grenade to save the lives of your comrades is NOT easy, nor safe. Turning back, to face the chance of death, to save a wounded comrade is NOT easy or safe...But the bravest of men have done so to protect those around them. Paying the ultimate price in the process.

What do you think of such people? I think they are true human beings. With moral convictions, truly selfless beings. Am I comparing myself to them? no. I question if I could be as heroic. But one thing I KNOW for sure is, doing what is easy and safe, simply means doing NOTHING. And to be honest, I am not prepared to do nothing.

My country has been enslaved by internationalist bankers, just like yours. And I will work towards ending this, at least here in England, one way or another.

My body fills with anger, frustration and fury whenever I see the likes of Tony Blair smiling and smirking to the general public. After sending hundreds if not thousands of British men to die in Iraq and Afghanistan for pointless reason. Sent there looking in caves for Osama Bin Laden. Making a mockery of common sense. Sent to Afghanistan to look under every rock for Al-Qaeda.

Just looking at Cameron sat their watching Murray in the Wimbledon finals, while he spent £10,000,000 each day in Libya, then he turns around and says "we have no money" to fund healthcare or education. But we have enough to spend £50,000 - £200,000 on EACH missile we dropped on a sovereign Libya. A Libya under a ruler that has done more for his people than Bush, Obama, Cameron EVER has. A country under a state-owned bank, that didn't fall into line with the Bank of International Settlements, private Rothschild central banking model.

Walking among drones who know NOTHING that hasn't be spoken in their general direction from a glowing box. I can't make heads or tails out of this raving madhouse.

 

Why would I deny that?

I would call it more 'composed of white Ashkenazi invaders, mainly of E European, but also American origin'.

 

I'll ask for a second time. Jack, so are you denying that Israel is a colonial settler state?

 

Right, thanks, bang goes your entire argument that Israel controls the US.