What do they DO to people like Hillary Clinton?

Sorry for the 'snip', but I agree with the rest, and wanted to address this, AB.

You are right.

If Serf's rationale were taken to it's logical conclusion, then if I were walking home tonight, and saw three thugs gang raping a girl, then on the grounds of my own logical safety, I should do nothing, and walk on by.

By getting involved, I may get hurt, and, therefore, best thing to do, safest, is walk away.

At best, call the cops, maybe they will get their before they kill her.

That is what is wrong with 'society'.

No heart, no guts, no unity, general society could learn well from the Jews, who are excellent at sticking together.

 

And how is that, my resident expert on international affairs?

 

Think about it now. I'll give you 5 minutes.

 

Think about it now. I'll give you 5 minutes.

 

It doesn't mean BS.

Why don't you tell us the one again about how Zionists DO control the US, but...but Israel don't.

 

Exactly. It's cowardice. And cowardice allows tyranny to grow and foster. Cowardice is why we are so far down this road.

As you've highlighted, following Serif's logic, the founding fathers should have done what was easiest and safest. Which would be - to continue living under British crown rule, pay their taxes and shut up! 1776 would never have happened.

Guess what, if they had done so, i.e. done what was easy and safe, he, Serif, wouldn't even be ALIVE today.

And that is the irony of his words.

 

Because Israel is a settler colonial state which, by definition, serves US imperialist interests....Penny dropped yet, Mr conspiracy theorist?

 

Because Israel is a settler colonial state which, by definition, serves US imperialist interests....Penny dropped yet, Mr conspiracy theorist?

 

But Israel is a Zionist state, in that it was founded by Zionists. Israel policy is dictated by Zionists. So if Zionists control the USA, then by virtue of the fact that Israeli policy is Zionist policy, then Zionists also control Israel.

I don't see what is confusing you here.

 

That's not what I'm talking about. Israel as a state does not control the US state even though both states are individually controlled by Zionists.

 

I am not being romatic here, but I genunely believe that not so v long ago, if someone had been attacked or mugged, in the street, that people would have rushed more to the aid of the person being attacked.

People cared more.

More sense of community spirit, right and wrong, protocol, call it what you will.

Such things still exist, I myself recently stepped in, when a group of about four lads of 17 or 18, were chewing bits of paper, and spitting them at an old couple's head, on a bus.

They were amazingly invisible, to almost everyone on that bus, so psychologically interesting.

Now, the safest thing for me would be to have not seen them either.

But things like that, they just burn away, and if I did not do something, then I would have hated myself, after the fact.

This was not an intellectual problem, this time, and needed a more, shall we say, a direct verbal communcation, of the robust type.

Okay - I said if they did it one more time, I would put their heads through the window.

It worked.

That is usually what bullies do, back down when confronted by someone with confidence or no fear.

In smaller communties, there is probably still that same sense of unity and caring, I watched a thing a while back, about the (let me think)...Amish?

Okay, I know..I know...to an outsider looking it, it all seems a bit weird, a bit Walton's on acid.

And yet, as I listened, I could not help think that there was something fundamentally goodly there, as well.

Something often missing in our ever growing cities.

 

Tell us...

What you think political Zionism is?

Who it is meant to serve?

 

You still do not grasp the basics, do you?

No wonder you are no longer in 'international whatever it was'.

Not very good.

 

It serves the interests of what are euphemistically referred to as the one per cent super rich who are getting even richer on the backs of good, decent hard working people who pay their fair share of taxes, mainly at source via PAYE.

 

Your thinking is muddled. But you at least are one of the good guys because your heart is in the right place. I'd rather argue with pro-Israeli fanatics than you.

 

And...yet again..and for the, fork knows how many times now, you appear to believe that by howling at the moon, and repeating that something is nonsense, just because you don't agree, or that someone's thinking is muddled, because it is not your thinking, means that you are the 'winner'.

I know you would love to talk with the Zion Nazi's.

You were even wanting to shake the hand of one, the other evening, and, of course, you know it is true that Israel militarise their entire population, male and female.

You do accept that right, and you do know there are rarely exceptions to this, yes?

And you do know that the Israeli military engage in the routine persecution of people, don't you?

When one declares themselves as Israeli, they will almost certainly be in the military, or some affiliate of, or they will have been, or they will be a reservist, or some such thing.

But no...that will be a conspiracy theory...nonsense..muddled thinking...whatfeckingever.

So. When one does declare that they are Israeli, I would think about that, unless you think all those that post on the internet, who are Israeli, are those that have never been in the military, and, if they were, all they did was help old ladies across the road.

I am not even sure that you are British.

For a man that harped on about how great the vote is, you seem ashamed to tell us your past voting history.

And for someone that is British, you often spell certain words....in a way that a British person rarely, if ever, does.

 

And do you think this body of people would mainly be....

Muslims.

Hindu's.

Fins.

Stalanists.

Classic Fascists.

Sikh's.

Raelians.

Jesus lovers.

Or Zionist Jews?

 

The one per center Zionists consist of a variety of people, yes including Jews....What's your point, precisely?

 

I said I'd rather argue it out with pro-Israeli's rather than you because I regard them a vile creatures as opposed to your general stance which is on the right side of worthy. But, politics aside, I'm begining to see you as a nasty piece of work.

 

Right.

So let us say that your 1% are primarily rich Zionist Jews.

Now.

Which nation are they raised to be loyal to?

Is it America?

Is it Britian?

Is it Israel?

 

Well chum, I really do not care, to be honest, you sound like you are a bit of a Walter Mitty, but i guess we all love one another, in the end....

 

I imagine arguing with trout mask replica, is very much like arguing with a trout, pointless.

seems to me like he is ducking reality at every step. by rejecting reality and projecting his own, TMR is merely trying to spare his brain from computing just how badly he's been lied to. No one can really be this bad at joining the dots.

 

He claims he was in the MI6 or something, international strategist or diplomat.

That is his one arguement.(I am qualified, so there)

Plus, the one he has running on another thread, in which he says the US are not controlled by ANYONE, but they are under Zionist control.

Ha ha!

 

It's a wind up, I'm sure of it.

 

It must be.

Good fun though, he did well to keep it going.