Have you ever noticed how the women on this forum have no problem sharing personal stories of abuse from their lives, but I have not seen a post yet of a man sharing a personal story of abuse from his life. Why do you think that is??? Do you think men are not abused??? Or is it because people are sympathetic to the abuse suffered by women, but they think men who share stories of abuse are pathetic non-men whiners, and losers??? One has to go no further than this forum to hear feminists calling men, "whiners," "losers," "non-men," "pathetic" ec cetera when they bring up issues about their lives. Personally, I've learned to never share stories from my life becausein my experience feminists are horrible people who will use anything they can against you to further their agenda
I guess we will see. This forum has very few feminist on it so you may be barking up the wrong tree. Lots of men have mentioned manipulative and conniving women on the forum and I never saw anyone attack them for being whiners or non-men here. Maybe I just don't pay enough attention.
Exhibit 1A ...and of course the women who share stories of their abuse aren't, "whining losers," but the men are ...and feminism isn't sexist, nope not sexist at all ...yep feminism obviously just means, "equality" obviously LOL LOL
I for one think abuse is horrible regardless of the gender being abused and regardless of the gender doing the abuse. - - - Updated - - - A feminist is a member of a female supremacist hate movement, just as a neo-nazi is a member of a white supremacist hate movement.
I've seen several men bring up the issue of abuse in their relationships before (wherein they suffered the abuse from a female partner, either physically or manipulatively). There are not very many that I have seen here mention it, but there are a couple. I will not speak for them though and let them come forward if they would like to. I can understand why they might not want to come forward again though as I have seen them derided as being weak for not stopping or being able to stop their much smaller partners from harming them. I find this to be extremely inappropriate behavior and very polarizing to the men of this forum who may want to speak of the abuse they have faced but are afraid to come forward for fear of being ridiculed or mocked again.
Are you sure you're not a feminist??? because the feminist you're defending routinely does what you're claiming I do: taunting, mocking, and flaiming people, not to mention personally attacking people and even physically threatening and advocating violence. I mean you may not be as radical as most feminists, but Oscar Schindler was not as radical as most of his peers, but Oscar Schindler was still a Nazi-know what I'm saying??? Meanwhile, I've done nothing but promte equality regardless of ones race, or gender. Isn't claiming I bait people into flaiming a little like the pot calling the kettle black after your post???
I don't think so. She was pointing out issues with your posting style. She did it nicely and eloquently. No flaming anywhere in her post.
Where have I, "poked and prodded at women's suffering and abuse." Show me one post to support your claim or is that just another blatant lie created by a feminist??? To the contrary, I've said abuse is horrible regardless of the gender of the victim and it's horrible regardless of the gender of the perpetrator. Show me one post to support your claim.
Here: It is offensive in the extreme to claim that someone who been subjected to horrific violence... is a member of a '..supremacist hate group'... and then make quite ridiculous analogies / comparisons to Nazis. Someone suffers horrifc abuse. Your claims of 'supremacist hate group' and using a Nazi analogy to link that person to is offensive in the extreme. Not to mention completely off the beam in terms of representing the actuality of someone's experience with horrific violence at the hands of some others. You are quick to see and label anyone who disagrees with you as part of a "..supremacist hate group of feminists.' I see that as a beligerant and irresponsible and disingenuous move on your part. There's your example.
So if a white man was horrifically attacked by a group of African Americans and he subsequently joined a Neo-Nazi group it would be offensive in the extreme to claim he was a member of a supremacist hate group??? So, in other words, according to Gwendoline if a man were attacked by some African Americans, he would be justified in joining a Neo-Nazi hate group???
Yes, men do face abuse because women often think its ok to to hit, slap and throw things at them. I know one woman who would attack her boyfriend and then call the police because he was hold her back and left a bruise on her wrists. Luckily---the cops had seen that type of thing before. Not everyone here who have been abused is a feminazi type. Our stories and experiences help frame our opinions and values---you can't just dismiss them. I have had experienced true abuse from an exhusband. I don't have the motivation to express it, because frankly I take responsability for the fact that picked and stuck with the wrong guy--knowing he was the wrong guy and seeing all the signs. My views on casual sex, living together and marriage and how important it is to know your mate and live independently while you are getting to know your mate---is partly based on my experiences. I haven't seen any whining here frankly.
FYI, your posts in this thread of yours alone. Shows you are exactly what you think you are not. Just sayin.
You just don't get it, do you? Do you know what 'self-reflection' means? I'm done with you, seems YOU are the 'supremacist' in this ridiculous finger-pointing charade of yours. Truly, try to be a bit more mindful and realistic. You'll have better discussions, I promise you.
I don't know what posts you read because I've never dismissed anyones experiences. To the contrary, I've said abuse is horrible regardless of the gender of the victim and it's horrible regardless of the gender of the perpetrator. "Yes, men do face abuse because women often think its ok to to hit, slap and throw things at them. I know one woman who would attack her boyfriend and then call the police because he was hold her back and left a bruise on her wrists. Luckily---the cops had seen that type of thing before. Not everyone here who have been abused is a feminazi type." I agree. In this season of The Real World two different women attacked two different men, in a small sample size of around ten people/roomates and no one called the police and they weren't even kicked out of the house as men have been in past seasons when they have been violent. "I haven't seen any whining here frankly." I haven't really seen any whining either, however; almost everytime a man brings up an issue concerning men the feminists on this forum call him a whiner, a loser, a non-man, a nin nong, limp lettuce, a twit ec cetera ec cetera ec cetera.
Being painted as a member of a 'supremacist hate group of feminists' by ryobi at every turn... has had to eventually turn into a point of humour for me. Yes, me, the member of a supremacist hate group of feminists, lol. I live an earnest life, and yes, reflective life. Right now I'm going up the road to do food shopping and post a contract for some extra recent employment. I'll ponder having a coffee with a friend and where we'll go, I'll probably do some housework and washing... put some music on and maybe read for a short spell. Then tomorrow back to work for a week of industrious slogging away. Part of a 'supremacist hate group of feminists' indeed.
And I told her that demeaning men who might have been abused is not the way to go about this. Or did you miss it? Also I don't know how many times I must say it, but yes I am positive I am not a feminist. I do not identify as one. I identify as a Libertarian and to a lesser extent an egalitarian. This whole man vs woman train, I'd rather not get on it. You say that but at the same I have noticed you are rather condescending and taunting in the way you speak to people. As in you did not hesitate to constantly throw in my face something that I had said sarcastically and even elaborated that it was sarcastic. But even after that elaboration you still continued with bringing it up trying to misconstrue it and bait me. Even now you continue to toss out the word feminist, trying to label me as such for some reason or other. I don't know why you feel such a dire need to label me that when I have told you repeatedly that I do not identify as a feminist. Did you take my post as one where I was trying to bait you or one where I was genuinely criticizing how you respond to people? Because my intent was the latter.
But I am not a feminist. I have already said many times that I am a Libertarian and again to a lesser extent an egalitarian. I may agree with many different people on many different subjects, but that does not mean I am a Christian, a Muslim, a feminist, a misandryst, a misogynist, a Republican, a Democrat, etc. I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to falsely label me.
I apologize but I am not interested in rifling through your posts to prove my point. I will however point it out to you next time you do it if you would like.
OK,...I'll call you a libertarian and to a lesser extent an egalitarean, but you definitely have a feminist bias. I mean you yourself said you agree with a feminist who has admitted she doesn't like men, "on most things."
And I have also called out that feminist when she has insulted men on the whole as whiners and losers because it is polarizing to those who may have truly suffered abuse, seen it, experienced it and who fight it every day for themselves and for the women they care about. But you seem to keep letting that slip your mind for your own convenience. I don't know why it bothers you that I agree with some of the things people have said here, no matter what their personal position or stance is. I have even agreed with you on many things and also disagreed with you on many things. What is the problem? This is a place for open discussion is it not? A place where we can challenge each other's views?
