White House: Extending Unemployment creates jobs

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Consmike, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. DivineComedy

    DivineComedy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2011
    Messages:
    7,629
    Likes Received:
    841
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If the purpose of unemployment insurance is to create someone else a job, other than the unemployed whose employer paid the insurance, it is theft and like stealing a man's horse.
     
  2. Death Grip

    Death Grip Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,820
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Liberals have no idea about motivation, drive, and incentive. They have no clue on how to create jobs. When you are a beta male just showing up is an achievement.
     
  3. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    55,910
    Likes Received:
    24,869
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Brings up an interesting question... are laid off govt workers eligible for unemp? I'm sure the reason we don't know is because it's never happened before!
     
  4. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 18, 2009
    Messages:
    30,444
    Likes Received:
    6,429
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Right, but taking water out of the pool and dumping it in other pools 1/2 across the globe somehow makes more water magically appear.
     
  5. Andromeda Galaxy

    Andromeda Galaxy New Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Messages:
    206
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    :laughing: Now that was funny! I guess all us guys should just now be or become alpha males that way we can be somebody worthwhile and achieve something (sarcastic joking and humor). Yeah, that's the ticket. :laughing:
     
  6. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages:
    25,361
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's not rocket science....

    Authoritarian federal government boots on the necks of revenue generators and job producers....

    including the uncertainty surrounding Obamacare...

    progressively punitive "consumer/employee protection" nose wiping and overreaching eco-marxist environmental regs...

    and the certainty that "SOMEONE" (revenue generators and job producers) will be forcefully tapped to repay the absurd amounts of debt/deficit spending, and continue to fund an increasingly massive, overbearing and expensive federal government...

    is, in a nutshell, the entire problem....
     
  7. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Theres no shortage of water or stupid people.
     
  8. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There's the smart argument.

    When there is nothing to add, just question the masculinity/sexuality of liberals.

    Bravo. I must say it is posts like yours that make me have the level of respect for the right on this forum that I have.
     
  9. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 18, 2009
    Messages:
    30,444
    Likes Received:
    6,429
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Right... we keep hearing this "uncertainty" canard from the right-wing.

    It's such a load of bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Taxes are at historic lows, particularly for corporations. Companies are making record profits. Companies are paying out record compensation for executives while workers' wages stagnate and productivity soars.

    Yet companies were "uncertain" about taxes. So the Job-Killing Bush Tax Cuts were extended. Job growth has been minimal, which is better than negative, but simply too anemic to put this country back on the solid economic founding.

    The pool is almost (*)(*)(*)(*)ing empty and the top is just trying to vacuum the rest of the water out so that it can sell back in a bottle with their label slapped on the side.

    BTW, if the right-wingers and their t-party faction are so askeered about "uncertainty", then why did they decide to play brinkmanship politics with the debt ceiling increase resulting in the rightly dubbed "Tea Party Downgrade".

    Don't (*)(*)(*)(*) on us and try to tell us that it's "trickle-down".
     
  10. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You act like theyre telling the truth or something....

    If Obama created the jobs like he promised, unemployment wouldnt even be necessary....

    Obama is basically saying... I lied before, but trust me now....

    Awe.. Hell No 1!!
     
  11. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 18, 2009
    Messages:
    30,444
    Likes Received:
    6,429
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Interesting, the thread on rain in Texas and Perry running for President seems to directly counter that...
     
  12. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your highly partisan rhetoric has nothign to do with me or anything I said.
     
  13. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 18, 2009
    Messages:
    30,444
    Likes Received:
    6,429
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol. The dichotomous idiocy of the right is staggering. For the past 2 years we get to hear "government doesn't create jobs, the private sector does" followed a short time later with "why hasn't Obama created jobs?"

    So the Republicans have been in control of the House. They've managed to shut down any further hopes of another badly needed stimulus and have blocked a number of bills that were aimed at trying to stop businesses from taking tax credits for offshoring US jobs. So far, the Republicans' "focus on jobs" has only resulted in the loss of jobs and they are threatening to kill even more if they get their way.
     
  14. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    27,364
    Likes Received:
    653
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is incredible stupidity, by this logic all the welfare areas should be booming,,,LOL They get chacks dont they? HAHAHAAHAHAHAH Those dopes this is some of the worst logic I have ever seen.
    First off there are countries that have shown by shortening unemployment more people get jobs, they know this. Not sure I think it was Denmark...
    Secondly,,,you are taking money from people who pay the benifits...they will spend less...
    Found it.....

    [​IMG]
    According to the New York Times,

    It shows that between 2005-7, the number of people who got jobs during their four years of benefits — the green line – rose at the beginning before dropping sharply, then spiked as benefits were about to run out, only to plummet after. The red line shows similar behavior in 1998, when Denmark’s benefit period was five years.

    Steen Bocian, a chief economist at Danske Bank, asserts that:

    it shows that people are not seeking all the jobs they could get, but just the jobs they would like to have.

    As expected, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi irrationally believes that paying people not to work somehow creates jobs. As shown in Denmark, excessive unemployment benefits give people less incentives to actively search for a job. Be on the lookout for Nancy Pelosi to pass yet another deficit increasing unemployment insurance extension during a Lame Duck Session that will add to billions to the national debt while not creating net new jobs.
    .






    Also the flaw in their logic is that when it comes to higher unemployment benefits or any other stimulus spending, the resources given to the unemployed have to be taken from someone else….While the unemployed may spend more as a result of higher unemployment benefits, those people from whom the resources are taken will spend less. In an economy, the income effects from a transfer payment always sum to zero. Quite simply, there is no stimulus from higher unemployment benefits.



    http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/actually-nancy-pelosi-unemployment-benefits-do-not

    This is a pure case of them knowing the truth, but rely on the stupid uninformed public to swallow their crap. This is pure Obama politics, playing to the dumb crowed in Chicago on a soap Box. He figures this tactic should work all over.
     
  15. Death Grip

    Death Grip Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,820
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I lost all respect for liberals after the continuous "Teabagging" comments. It became clear to me that by and large, liberals are scumbags that are intent on attacking anything that does not fit their rigid desire to control others existence.

    I have decided that we are a country at extreme risk of failure and what was the greatest land in the world will be lost to authoritative leftists if they are not completely exposed, demoralized, and tossed out of power. There is no compromising with liberal beta males. That was proven in the debt debate where Harry Reid and the Democrats would not deal with the TEA Party and would not make real cuts. The TEA Party had to vote against the final bill because it is a scam. Then we actually had people claiming the deal was the TEA Party's bill when 90%+ of the TEA Party caucus voted against it... liberals will lie, cheat, and steal. I don't trust them or respect them any longer.
     
  16. pocket aces

    pocket aces Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Messages:
    4,495
    Likes Received:
    178
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Wal-Mart is busy they hire more cashiers. When they are not they either let people go or they reduce hours. So yes in theory it can create jobs. What needs to be argued is if that theory is correct, not the statement itself. That you need to put a little more work in than just calling it an oxymoron.
     
  17. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,101
    Likes Received:
    37,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    its going to be fun hearing republicans blame obama for high unemployment...

    and then oppose extending unemployment because there are plenty of jobs
     
  18. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    45,042
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It does not create jobs. the people who get the unemployment check are bringing home less money than they did when they had their jobs, so they are spending less.

    So, it does not create jobs.
     
  19. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages:
    25,361
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You have no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing clue what drives America's economy do you?...I'll give you a hint....It's not some vague, monolithic "evil" and "undertaxed" corporations....nor is it government.
     
  20. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    45,042
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Why are you blaming the tea party, when their two bills were the only bipartisan bills that passed the house? The dems proposed nothing, and passed nothing. end of story.
     
  21. pocket aces

    pocket aces Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Messages:
    4,495
    Likes Received:
    178
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Alright but if going by what the Conservative mantra says those people should go find any work they can as opposed to collecting unemployment. So if person A gets laid off from a job that pays $400 per week and goes on UI. He makes 320 per week until he listen to Hannity one day and feels bad. So he goes down the street to the convenience store and takes the place of two teenagers. He now makes $275 per week. $200 less per month.

    Now would you say that might have a job killing effect?

    I agree with you btw. I don't think it creates jobs as much as it may help to stabilize the jobs that are already there.
     
  22. bledwhitenscrewed

    bledwhitenscrewed New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2011
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It would be more than unfair to say that only liberals will lie, cheat, and steal.

    Republicans cheating (filibuster):
    [​IMG]

    Republicans lying:
    Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told CNN that if the U.S. knew Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, it probably wouldn't have decided to invade.
    (...but they knew)

    Republicans stealing:
    Silverado Savings and Loan collapsed in 1988, costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. Neil Bush, son of then Vice President of the United States George H. W. Bush, was on the Board of Directors of Silverado at the time. Neil Bush was accused of giving himself a loan from Silverado, but he denied all wrongdoing.

    for brief comedic relief and the use of your statement, nearly verbatim:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvDcJydVcHo"]Listen Im politician. Which Means I am a cheat and liarer - YouTube[/ame]
     
  23. thintheherd

    thintheherd New Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,465
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, this is absolutely spectacular logic for people with the visionary acumen of a Mayfly.

    Time to pat themselves on the wings.
    .
     
  24. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    45,042
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    0
    If someone is on Unemployment for 99 weeks, and the government stops giving them this money, they have no choice but to go out and look for work.
     
  25. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,101
    Likes Received:
    37,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    right, and social security doesnt do anything for seniors, because they get less than they made when they worked full time.
     

Share This Page