Who's behind Trump's big polling deficit? Two key groups defecting to Biden

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  1. MrTLegal

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    Then prove it and stop being a sore loser.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Allow me to inform you:

    Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19. --FDA
     
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    The fda never disproved anything I am saying, you are choosing to see what you want to see, not the truth. The objective fact remains that hcq is effective at dealing with flu like symptoms that the Covid has in abundance, and it’s saving lives.
     
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    Not being a sore loser at all, I’m objectively correct which makes me quite the opposite though I don’t care for childish notions of winning or losing. I’m simply pointing out the objective truth regardless of how you feel about it.
     
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    You should reread it, as it never disproved the objective fact that hcq treats flu like symptoms and is saving lives.
     
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    You have been presented with evidence to the contrary. What does that make you, Moolk?

    You are assuming that where HCQ has been effective with other diseases containing 'flu like symptoms', therefore, it should work with Covid because, it, too, has flu like symptoms, I can see where that mistake can be made. However, ..........

    But, Moolk, the FDA, because of 3 studies thus far, asserts that it's not safe and effective for Covid, so, by extrapolation and simple logic, and I'm talking baby talk simple, it would extend to Covid's symptoms.



    And, Moolk, I didn't say the FDA 'proved' anything, they are, however, relying on the studies and data sets present to the case of HCQ's safety and effectivenes treating or preventing covid 19. Please focus your language, it's sloppy.
     
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    You have not presented any evidence to the contrary, you don’t even understand what you are posting. The fda has not contradicted me at all, nor does it disprove the decades of science confirming the objective fact that hcq helps treat flu like symptoms and is saving lives. Doctors across the globe ignoring the irrational attack on this medicine and saving lives.

    I don’t care for your personal attacks, you resort to it because deep down you know you are wrong and it eats at you.
     
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    But Moolk, FDA says HCQ 'not safe and effective for treating Covid 19.

    How is that not contradicting you? That's what it looks like to me. Would you care to explain this?

    I don't think you will. IN fact, I think the reason you won't is because you can't.

    Isn't that correct, Moolk?

    And, refresh your browser, I removed the personal attack. You were pissing me off, and that is reasonable, given your incessant gaslighting.
     
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    The fda did not say that it’s not an effective treatment for flu like symptoms, you aren’t reading what you are posting. Instead, we have decades of science supporting the objective fact that it does and countless examples demonstrating that it is in fact being used even as we speak to great effect. This is true regardless of how you choose to “feel” about it.
     
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    "Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19." FDA

    What, exactly, is the FDA saying, Moolk? Explain this to me, because, I've been speaking English for 67 years, and it reads to me just what it says.
    I can find no other meaning than that which contradicts you

    You are saying it doesn't, but you don't explain how. And, 'I don't have to explain it' is not a merit worthy argument.

    No, it's not. This is true regardless of what you say or 'feel' about it.
     
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    They aren’t refuting my point at all, and it still remains objectively true and beyond any objection, backed by decades worth of science that hcq is effective for treating flu like symptoms and is being used by doctors every where, saving lives.

    it is on you to do your own research. I will not hold your hand.
     
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    His behavior would not be tolerated in a proper science forum; people would eviscerate him in a New York Minute.
     
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    No, Moolk, you are wrong. HCQ hasn't been proven to be safe or effective in treating Covid, now that is what the FDA said.

    YOu say it doesn't, but you are not being honest.
     
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    I don’t care about yours, or any others idea of proper debate based on your own arbitrary rules. If they were proper science followers they would be informed and not require thier hand held.
     
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    Yes, you are correct.
     
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    Nope, I am objectively correct despite the irrational attack on this medicine. It’s been proven effective against flu like symptoms and is still being used even as we speak.
     
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    Not even close.
     
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    You are embarrassing yourself, but, of course, you don't care.
     
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    No I’m not, you are simply emotionally lashing out because deep down you know you are wrong.
     
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    I'll file that in the 'wishful thinking' file.
     
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    You may do and believe as you wish but the objective facts still prove me right.
     
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    I'll file that in the 'wishful thinking' file.

    I'll also file it in the 'vacuous argument' file, cross referenced.
     
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    It’s a valid argument supported by facts. It’s objectively completely despite the nonsense attacks.
     
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    Incompetent rebuttals are [highlighted pertains to your comment and general non arguments you have committed] non arguments, especially those which contain vacuous (unsubstantiated) declarations, rebuttals rife with weasel words ( improper use of generalities ) ad hominems, loaded phrases, egregious logical fallacies and misuse of logic terms, off topic, off point, (includes 'kill the messenger" tactics which are highly debatable [unless the messenger is a well-established unreliable source; a CTer, etc.] ), flaming, and otherwise disingenuous remarks, childish and simplistic thinking, including, but not limited to, comments of self puffery and all it's variants (such as shaming, trivializing opponent's argument, mockery) etc.,
     
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    These may be your delusion about me but I genuinely do not care. I care about truth, and the objective truth is that hcq is an effective treatment for flu like symptoms and is saving lives that are dying to the chinavirus
     

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