Why Biden Will Lose

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The RP will have to make an offer voters simply can't refuse to be sure of a win.
    I doubt that RP politicians will ever do that to their DP partners in crime. ;-)

    “They gather, all the brands, at the self-referential festivals, like the April White House Correspondents Association dinner, whose buffet of “pre-parties” and “after-parties” now number more than two dozen– because a single banquet, it is clear, cannot properly celebrate the full achievements of the People Who Run Your Country. … The insider swarm has been known by various names: “Permanent Washington”. “The Political Class”. “The Chattering Class”. “The Usual Suspects”. “The Beltway Establishment”. “The Echo Chamber”. “The Echo System”. “The Gang of 500”. “The Gang of 600”. “The Movable Mess”. “The Club”. THIS TOWN, Mark Leibovich, Penguin Books, 2013 p. 8.
     
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    Yes, but powerful male politicians certainly like them.
     
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    Uh huh yeah, sorry if you want to talk about the current paradigm of governance in the entirety of the west, it's eerily similar to Italian Fascism.
     
  4. Reiver

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    Pareto's theory of the elites, for example, isn't at all relevant to most of the West. It is relevant to the US. Also corporatism is typically curtailed. Not so in the US etc etc etc
     
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    Sorry no, three car companies in Germany one on France, 2 in Italy one in Sweden etc. Note the defining character of Fascism is the preservation of the appearance of private ownership while government actually controls almost everything through an ever more intricate web of rules and regulations. Hence Nazi Germany stakly limited what socialist would call the petite bourgeosie.
     
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    You open up yourself again! Note Trump's dictates and his preparation to control the economy through capital. You dont get that in France and Germany. You merely have standard liberal democracy, with subsidies within the confines of EU regulations.
     
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    And most of us plan on voting at least three times this year.
    :roll:
     
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  8. Darthcervantes

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    Dint get cocky! You should vote regardless. If biden wins, america is over.
     
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    Trump's neo-nazi and other white supremacist followers are as supportive as ever, enthusiastically renewing their endorsements of 2016; most other Americans not nearly as thrilled.
     
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    With Trump at least, it will be the continuation of a great adventure:

    - Pandemic out of control
    - Unemployment rate at 11%.
    - Economic crisis
    - Stratospheric Debt
    - Riots across the country
     
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  11. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The economy is tied to the pandemic and you know it. Find a better talking point please. Oh and trump didn't shoot George floyd. You will need to do better. It's not trumps fault that your buddies hate statues and love free television sets.
     
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    Not happening, and that isn't Trump to nearly the degree as it is the Democrats who have been doing more and more since the Great Depression. Since the Sherman anti Trust Act was written somewhere around a hundred years ago only two trust were broken up one under Reagan and the other under Coolidge.
     
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    Again all very different. Reaction to the Great Depression was actually conservative and an effort to maintain the status quo. Subsequent use of Keynesianism, forced on the US via world war, is actually a variation of liberalism. This has no similarity with Trump who believes private enterprise only is relevant if it is consistent with his goals. As you quite kindly mentioned, that's Fascism 101
     
  14. Arkanis

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    Of course I know it.

    That is why I am saying that if the pandemic had been managed responsibly, the economic impacts would have been less.
     
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    Not gonna take the bait. You guys say he isn't locking down enough stuff but when stuff is locked down you cry economic disaster..which forces a lose/lose scenario. We aren't stupid and know exactly what you are doing. Nice try!
     
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    At least make the intellectual effort to inform yourself about what other nations, such as South Korea, Germany and Canada, have done.
     
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    I'm sure many will vote many more times!
     
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    I’m voting Green Party. But my vote doesn’t really matter because my state is so partisan. I wish we had 50 swing states and this nation would be in a much better position.
     
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    Excuses, excuses. The economy is always tied to something, and no one has accused Trump of shooting George Floyd (or anyone else for that matter.)

    Instead of pretending that the majority of Americans that support Black Live Matter are only after free television sets, try spinning this irrefutable reality:

    Trump is on record as having said:

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    “We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine.”


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    ““The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA.”


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    “We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better.
    They’re all getting better!”


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    “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days
    is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."


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    “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”


    Today, there are 5,361,165 cases in America, and 169,481 have died from it.


    Why would the American electorate, even given Trump's attempts to sabotage their right to vote safely, wish to perpetuate such incontrovertible gross incompetence?
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    “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus.
    The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency.
    It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People,

    I want to thank President Xi!”
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736
     
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    If it were true yes.
     
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    You tried it in the seventies. The greatest generation tried to warn us.....but the left was more subtle then. However they did praise Che Guevara and other Commies. Now they openly claim Socialism. BLM's second in command thinks looting big stores is righteous and should just be chalked up to reparations. Democrat Party? + Medicare for all, no more fracking or oil independence, Virtual open borders, gun confiscation, transgender surgery paid for by the citizens as well as any illegal entry's healthcare, increase the size of government, and do AOC's "Green Deal", and do away with the second amendment.. The object is to destroy the system and rebuld it to the tastes of the squad which goes hand in hand with Soros style global communism. Rioting, looting and a left wing media are all part of the effort. If you find this sore to your ears it is because it is true and you are being exposed. They've already nailed one Deep State FBI traitor. It will be easy to go upwards from there.
     
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    It has every thing to do with the attempt to overthrow a system through violence.
     
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    It is good to know. They should dislike them both.
     
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    Right wingers understand that this Administration looks out fr the "individual". That is contrary to fascism. Handing over our healthcare to a government run system, limiting or removing the individuals right to bear arms, promoting lawlessness and open borders all favor a collective run government. Individual liberty out the door. Your claims of fascism are very adolescent. Even Mussolini could tell you that!
     
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    Or maybe it's a bunch of pissed off people. Haymarket Square. Long before Mussolini.
     

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