Why Do I Need An "Assault" Weapon?

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  1. stjames1_53

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    seems pretty cut and dried to me, so what weapons are we not allowed to have?
     
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    What part of the communism of war belongs to capitalism?
     
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    The ones that you have to muster for and become well regulated.
     
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    What are those? Right now, we can own modern sporting rifles which have the anti-gun people up in arms (pun intended). Concerning certain full auto weapons, we don't have to "muster and become regulated" for those either. Stop running in sentence circles (you have been saying this same crap for about 2 years now IIRC) and speak clearly.
     
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    So... 25,785 shifts of the goal post (as of this posting.)
     
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    Just ignore him. Hes a troll not interested in intelligent discussion.
     
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    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    Joe citizen loves to give me hell, and that includes some of my anti-gun control friends when I tell them I think ALL weapons should be legal, even small cannon up to 105mm. We should have the same access to weapons that our police have. Personally I wouldn't care if everything were legal save for nukes and bio weapons. Why not? Once we strip the emotional knee jerk responses away a machine gun isn't more deadly than a few sticks of dynamite. Really I, with no training in explosives save for minor military training could easily make improvised weapons as deadly as machine guns, cannon or chain guns etc. The real reason anti gun types and government don't want military weapons in the hands of our neighbors is fear, most of born from ignorance and the government propaganda. Why DON'T I need an assault weapon? I only have a few but love building shooting and collecting firearms. Also I have the right to own and carry firearms as per the recent ruling of the SCOTUS, save for the carry part. Carry? That's another sore spot...but off topic...lol

    reva
     
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    Since when is war communism and since when does a lack of capitalism cause war?
     
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    regulation=tyranny
     
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    I tried....:frown:

    :wall:

    reva
     
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    worry not, my brother.....he fails to understand his own arguments. Claims to be superior, but falls about 4 crates short of common sense.
    His interpretations of the Federalist Papers is as far off as his interpretations of the Constitution. He has admitted to being a socialist...so this is how he rolls....
     
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    Dude, you may want to actually read our supremest law of the land every once in a while to ensure you don't Appeal to Ignorance of it.

    Only well regulated militias of the several United States, have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and those Arms which may be necessary regarding ensuring the domestic Tranquility and security of our free States--including, those Arms which may be necessary to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
     
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    Brother stjames ! Ahhh' I remember reading something about the federalist papers...oh yes it was a note from my High School American history teacher saying I got an F for the horrific essay on Fed papers! I was dumbly uninterested in history way way back then. Anyway, today I love history but my interest in history lies more in fifty or 60 years before the civil war, during the civil war til about 1900. I know very little detailed info about the fed papers despite a review of them being an required study in political science in college. They are invaluable for interpenetrating the constitution and serve as a 'protector' of that document. Do they say anything about the 2nd adm? Is it true that Jefferson fought against the bill of rights being included in the Fed papers?

    Hmmm, this might surprise you coming from me, but I will say it anyway; If we lived in an ideal world where people were more honest and not so evil/greedy Communism/Socialism would be one of the most fair forms of government in the world and IMO I would wager it would be one of the best economic systems as well! Don't misunderstand me like I did my uber right wing dad (RIP pappy I miss you) when he first said that to me. I about fell out of my chair! He explained it from his religious perspective and I forgave him..I was an atheist back then too! Anyway I said it would be fair, I didn't say C/S would be better than capitalism. Capt'ism' would do well in the same ideal circumstances of less greed, but not as well as today's capt with loads of good old fashioned greed and treachery to drive our wall street thieves like a Peter-built on a downhill mountain grade. I would like to see this country again be led by honest men that loved their fellow man and the new country to a fault. But the type of government means less to me than having rights the most important being the right to worship as I please and the right to own and bear arms to make sure the first right remains intact and unaltered.

    reva
     
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    we all have so many times. It is you that doesn't understand the simplest language of the Federalist Papers. Even Madison indicated that all Americans keep their arms.
     
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    It only seems that way to the right because they don't have a clue or a Cause; and believe anyone who doesn't accept their "gospel Truth" must not be very intelligent.

    It is self-evident that War requires central planning and the coercive use of force of a State, except to the right.

    It is not just Regulation, but, wellness of regulation that is expressed. And we have a Commerce Clause that is supposed to be working for us, not against us.

    You merely and Only needed a valid argument that refutes my contention. Fallacies don't count because they are appeals to ignorance (of the law, and repugnant to even a god when appealing to the moral turpitude of the abomination of hypocrisy)--Job 34:30 KJV.
     
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    If this is what you call, trying, it is no wonder Y'all seem to believe I am the Troll; only Trolls don't have a valid arguments.
     
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    regardless, you have no idea what is contained in the Federalist Papers.
    http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/james-madison-quotes-3.html#ixzz3OQgRbzEd
     
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    Your continual appeals to ignorance of the law are duly noted. Only One Thing is expressly enumerated and declared in our Second Article of Amendment as necessary to the security of a free State.

    It isn't gun lovers without a clue or a Cause from their State or the Union.
     
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    At least I made sense...........you are a socialist. You have no use for any Rights. You seek to diminish the Bill of Rights. You are a traitor to the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution. You have no understanding of the Federalist Papers, and again, fail to come up with anything substantive other than to insult people. Arrogance has no reward, Daniel.
    Your so called Appeal is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).....and you are Ignorant of what the FF said about Arms. Even in the light of Truth, you choose to remain so
     
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    Yet, you are the one who only has fallacy for your Cause; are your Arms skills equally as deficient?
     
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    So any entity that requires central planning is communist? So you're an anarchist.
     
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    All governments I can think of has a central authority. The USA power is highly concentrated in its structure from the president on down.

    reva
     
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    would thou carest to discover?
    There is one in here that would verify said claim at my behest... I can shoot a fly off of an apple at 200 yds.
     
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    I agree. But according to my opponent, that automatically means 'communism'.
     

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