Why Do I Need An "Assault" Weapon?

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  1. danielpalos

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    nothing but diversion instead of posting a more cogent argument to better advance your Cause; i got it. thank you for ceding the point and the argument you couldn't seem to come up with for the greater glory of your Cause.
     
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    The Only failures are those that fail to have a valid argument that resorts to full employment of sublime Truth (value) over fallacy.
     
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    Why is the right so disingenuous regarding Arms.

    Some on the left may believe it is merely to speculate in Arms markets instead of oil markets.
     
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    There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the Supreme Law of the Land.
     
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    Alice 2.0 is better than most of those on the right.
     
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    it helps if you have more than a shilling's worth of propaganda and rhetoric at your disposal

    so now you go off topic......
     
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    I believe only that which is necessary to the security of a free State must not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

    There are no rights in private property established nor secured via our Second Article of Amendment.

    Thus, it merely becomes a question of rights in private property for Individuals.

    Why is the right so disingenuous in modern Information Age times?

     
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    The Only failures are those that fail to have a valid argument that resorts to full employment of sublime Truth (value) over fallacy.
     
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    Nothing but diversion and plagiarism from the right; i got it.
     
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    There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law or its Intent and Purpose; except to the disingenuous left

    ad hom: fallacy
     
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    I believe only that which is necessary to the security of a free State must not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

    There are no rights in private property established nor secured via our Second Article of Amendment.

    Thus, it merely becomes a question of rights in private property for Individuals.

    Why is the right so disingenuous in modern Information Age times?
     
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    I cited our Second Amendment, not any Thing else, like fullers of fallacy are wont to do.
    "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
    - Richard Henry Lee
     
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    You appealed to ignorance of the intent and purpose of the first clause.
     
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    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
    - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)
     
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    When should I expect shipment of my fully automatic musket that you promised me? I am very excited for my training.
     
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    No, just proof that anyone can talk in circles. The SCOTUS has already ruled that them2A is an individual right. Your circular logic, without ever touching on the actual subject matter BTQ, is getting old. So, more in that vein:

    The lack of proof in the negative justifies the positive claims of pro 2A supporters and denounces your unjustified claims contrary to our opinions. Since the SCOTUS has rightly more say than your internet ramblings, FIN.
     
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    Watch video. Become more educated. I assume by your strange grammatical skills that English is not your first language. If it is, well.... These guys might help you out a bit.

    Penn & Teller Explain The Second Amendment: http://youtu.be/Hx23c84obwQ
     
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    supremist law of the land
    grammar corrected
    most supreme law.......
     
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    10USC311, to be more precise and without any appeal to ignorance; thank you very much.

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    So what; there is no appeal to ignorance of the intent and purpose of any of our laws, much less our Second Amendment.

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    I am not the one appealing to ignorance of the law.
     
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    There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law or its Intent and Purpose; except to the disingenuous left
     
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    This argument between you two is like watching a ping pong tournament between two walls.

    I need a rifle because I am part of the militia as defined by U.S. Code › Title 10 › Subtitle A › Part I › Chapter 13 › § 311

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
     
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    the right merely appeals to ignorance, for general purpose.

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    Not all of the Militia of the United States is well regulated.
     
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    The right to bear arms is an individual right, unconnected with any militia.
     
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    Did you miss the second part where it says the unregulated militia is all males between 18-45?

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    Now I am confused. I believe you have talked yourself full circle. GG Dan.p
     
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    "On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
    - Patrick Henry

    The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them."
    Zachariah Johnson
    Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

    "If you wish the sympathy of the broad masses, you must tell them the crudest and most stupid things." unknown
     

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