Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

I cant fit the entirety of medical knowledge into a forum post.

Sorry I cant make a better reply than this but honestly I just don't have it in me to battle anti-maskers every day. Its been a long fight against this ignorance driven threat and I find myself wanting to respond with pure negativity and that doesn't make for good posting so lets just end this here.

 

It’s quite easy. There is no scientific proof that medical masks and cloth masks prevent or protect. If you believe and wear a mask act as if you do not have a mask on.

 

I am not a doctor - is someone has a concerns about certain types of vaccinations, he should publish it in a special paper where people who know the subject can peer review his thesis. Talking on FB groups about vaccine reservations can do President Trump, me or you.

 

Why? People are perfectly capable of listening to and deciding about issues such as vaccinations. When I was a child in the 50’s the only vaccinations we received were smallpox and polio which was thankfully discovered by Dr. Jonas Salk when I was very young. I recall that there were kids in iron lungs in the local hospital.

 

But what about the secondary shutdowns 6 months after masks were mandated?

Again if the masks worked why round 2 and round 3 of shutdowns?

Every time people get in crowds even wearing masks as required there is a new breakout and shutdowns follow.

That is the first clue that masks do not work because they are peddling bunk science.

So apparently you want to vote in a guy that promotes bunk science, is that why you think biden is da man?

 

Im glad to see that at least you admit the gov acts unconstitutionally at their whim.

 

The biggest, most common form of super spreader events is the evening news on the mainstream media. Super spreading of lies and propaganda.

 

Actually, I find the biggest champion of the virus is willfull ignorance.

 

because they are not 100% effective. You know this, but for some reason, enjoy playing dumb about it. But we all know you actually DO understand.

 

Sorry for the off color and mixed analogy but would you use a condom which you knew had holes in that would allow 80% of aerosol particles through it?

Of course not. You would act as if you didn’t have one.

 

The super spread is continuing at a huge scale. Using sero prevalence data there have been ~ 120,000,000 “asymptomatic” infections of people who now have antibodies in the United States. And the virus is becoming weaker due to viral attenuation (Muller’s ratchet).

 

Rejecting your premise as that's not what I said. But to the point, something isn't unconstitutional simply because its argued to be; it takes codification and/or supporting rulings to be such. In this case we have concrete ruling that declares mandating face coverings during a pandemic is beyond the authority of either the legislative or executive federal branches, and each brand has its existing precedents in public health acts that tend to demonstrate that they do in fact have such authority not to mention the commerce clause which provides a strong foundational argument for the same.

Such a case presented along precedent would be a real challenge for our current SCOTUS, and if presented to a Biden-stacked one obviously it would be an assured victory for the Biden Administration, but either way its far from concluded that a mask mandate is unconstitutional.

 

Is everyone wearing masks?
Is everyone wearing the right kind of mask?
Is everyone wearing the right kind of mask in the right way?
Is everyone wearing the right kind of mask in the right way and practicing social distancing?
Is everyone wearing the right kind of mask in the right way and practicing social distancing and checking their own symptoms?
Is everyone wearing the right kind of mask in the right way and practicing social distancing and checking their own symptoms and getting tested?
Is everyone wearing the right kind of mask in the right way and practicing social distancing and checking their own symptoms and getting tested and staying home when they're sick?

Please get real and stop attacking masks. You know damned well its still a work in progress to get people to follow all of the rules, not just masks. And on top of that none of these things are outright guarantees that COVID goes away tomorrow. We are mitigating the spread of this virus because in doing so we save lives.

 

From where would he derive it, point me to the part of the Constitution. Even Biden has had to back off and saying he would work with governors and "urge" them to pass such laws in their states. If Biden were to get a law passed who would enforce it, the FBI? Federal marshals? You think they are going to go around arresting people on federal charges of not wearing a mask?

 

Well I already did comment on this once:

My guess is that they'd lean on the commerce clause because a case could easily be made that controlling outbreaks is essential to regulating interstate commerce; a power afforded to the federal government. Additionally, the Public Health Service Act provides the executive branch with various provisions that could be adapted into mask mandates. And aside from that Congress controls the money and they could easily withhold funds to states that refuse to either enact mandates on their own, or submit to a federal mandate, and so on.​

Enforcement wise, I have no idea. Likely it would come down to what it always does: money. They could try to withhold monies from the various COVID Acts when states don't comply with or enforcement mandates. I emphasize try because this would be a hypocritical reversal from the left's response to similar federal demands regarding immigration enforcement.

 

Yeh thats such a handy maneuver to violate our rights!

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Ok so masks dont work, you are mitigating nothing if the result is a lockdown. Your hypothesis is not fact! But thanks for trying!

 

Ok I'm going to try and use your 'all or nothing' approach in another example and see if this registers.

A police officer is confronted with an armed violent suspect. The office draws their weapon and fires but misses. Bullets failed to stop the threat therefore all cops must disarm. Its the 'science' my guy, I've got like 'studies' n sheet to 'prove' it. I had to ignore a **** load of important details in order to jump to that erroneous conclusion but what the hell does that matter I'm justified by the 'science' and the 'studies' so get out my way we're disarming the police. ​

 

Then it would only apply to people crossing a stateline to engage in commerce but once in the state what authority? Wearing a mask has nothing to do with interstate commerece. Where does he get the authority to tell me to wear a mask in my own hometown? And you can't even state who would enforce this federal law. And it's not the states complying it would be the citizens complying.

 

We get virtually nothing from mask for the latest studies, so here

Is everyone practicing social distancing?
Is everyone practicing social distancing and checking their own symptoms?
Is everyone practicing social distancing and checking their own symptoms and getting tested?
Is everyone practicing social distancing and checking their own symptoms and getting tested and staying home when they're sick?

 

Indeed, and here in the US willful ignorance reigns supreme. It's part of the mass hysteria promoted by media and the authorities.

Which came first, the willful ignorance or the mass hysteria? That is a difficult question to answer accurately, but there is no doubt both were induced by Fauci & Friends.

 

I disagree. It was turned political by the republican party. Specifically Trump.

 

Except in one case, I can refrain from an activity that if I deemed it to be unsafe, could choose not to partake in. I dont HAVE to have sex.

I HAVE to life though. Get food. Work. You know. Normal things like that.

Your comparison is simply not valid.

 

That’s exactly my point. If you believe that masks protect and prevent act as if you did not have a mask (aerosol particles containing viruses pass right through a mask). Avoid indoor crowds and maintain social distancing. Act as if your mask has holes in it - it does.

 

Nation wide mask mandate on the horizon.