Why on Earth do people love the royal family

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by dumbanddumber, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    We know you are NOT an Australian due to your ignorance of Australian popular culture from a number of different decades. There is no way you could be an Australian and NOT get at least a couple of the references. The real Australians seemed to have no problem.

    You show an ignorance not just of grammar but of actual usage. An Illiterate would still know that you say 'Should have gone' rather than 'should have went'. Its a mistake that an educated foreigner would make. Like not understanding the difference between 'from' and 'of'.
     
  2. VanishingPoint

    VanishingPoint Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2013
    Messages:
    1,156
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    38
    n


    I had an Australian roommate for about three years and he would always claim that Australia was the 51st state. I would just laugh,
     
  3. bambu

    bambu New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    More like the Heads of a system that today is the best in the world....The Crown
    See any civil wars in Britain or Australia?
    See the armies there quelling riots of takeover?
    See any military juntas ruling?

    What you will see is half the world clamoring to be immigrants to them.
     
  4. bambu

    bambu New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Not possible but in common usage in many parts of Australia..."should have went' I hear it all the time.
     
  5. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    The Guy seems to know nothing of OZ popular culture.Couldn't get one reference.
     
  6. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    4,538
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Tell your sad story to mummy!!
     
  7. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Why are you lying about being an Australian? It is quite clear you are no such thing and the real Australians here know it. If you were a real Australian you would be adamant to prove it but because you are a liar you attempt to deflect with a pathetic 'go tell mummy' in a vain attempt to use Australian spelling in a " I don't say Mommy so I can't be American'. You have been caught out. You know it and we know it now just grow up and admit you are a Seppo (or whatever).
     
  8. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2011
    Messages:
    3,931
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Don't forget his intelligent and informative responses.
     
  9. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    Messages:
    4,126
    Likes Received:
    176
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Why should it matter if he is Australian or not??? That to me seems to be your problem not his. As the point is that you assume he is not so thus cannot be aware of anything Australian is the last resort to people who cannot front his debate.

    Has the premise of the thread been detracted from due to nationality??? Why should he be Australian to voice his opinion??? You can voice your opinion on USA, or any other nation of the world, should your nationality only allow you to have an opinion on your own nation???

    No, this is the usual attack of the poorly educated against somebody who they cannot beat into submission as the nationality of the person is irrelevant to anything. If anybody has been caught out it is the person who believes that the nationality is important to debate.
     
  10. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    It matters because he claims to be an Australian. If you lie openly and shamelessly about your experience than you deserve to be called out on it. If he was truthfull and said he was an American (or whatever) who has lived (or hasn't) in Australia and is thusly giving his opinion then fine. he doesn;t. he lies

    I do voice my opinion on the USA BUT I don't claim to be an American (unlike your untruthful friend). Actually I have not claimed the nationality of any country. It is not his opinion that I take issue with here- its his lying.

    Ah a personal attack on me as being poorly educated(which is odd for someone who claims that the Queen is Queen of India) followed by an assertion that being caught out lying is not relevant. How is claiming knowledge due to being a National of a certain country ,when you are clearly not , not a proper subject of debate?

    The liar could have not lied. he decided to lie. Perhaps you couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread .
    Or you can tell me why it is acceptable to lie about your nationality when claiming such is part of your argument.

    Culldave has shown his utter ignorance of Australian constitutional politics elsewhere.
     
  11. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    Messages:
    4,126
    Likes Received:
    176
    Trophy Points:
    63
    And you decide this because he does not know YOUR understanding of Australian idiom??? I am sure that far more people in Australia, who are born and breed in Australia would not pass your test of nationality...
    Actually, I have never seen him say he was anything. So you objecting to his nationality, because you perceive he is lying about his nationality??? What is his nationality??? Where has he said he is Australian??? So far you seem to object to points of saying he lives in Australia.

    The comment was not a personal attack, simply a point that pertains to many who would rather throw dispersion due to a person’s nationality. Fact is that by simply throwing dispersions across threads to prove some point of education from a hastily written comment is nothing more than a demonstration of my point.

    If what he states is untrue, you should be able to provide evidence, or demand evidence of his. BUT you seem set on attacking him due to your perspective of his nationality.
    In 14 pages, I see nothing that provides anything other than your test to his knowledge of national idiom to say he is lying. That is your point to prove, not mine. The fact is that while much of what he states I do not agree with, I don't engage myself in trying to find problem with his comments, like you do. If this is all you have to refute his stated opinion then you seem to have nothing...
    That maybe true, BUT you could provide evidence to show your point, but you don't. You could provide better argument of such, but you don't. You could provide rebuttal, but you don't. You simply attack his nationality and claim that to be great rebuttal of anything he has to say.

    Frankly, I would have stayed out of this but as nothing of any real substance has been happening lately... just like this.
     
  12. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    You attacked me and insulted me calling me 'uneducated' So frankly I don't need to prove anything to YOU. If I trawl back through 14 pages and find the answer you will ignore it anyway. You seem determined to protect this liar so NOTHING I say will change your position. Thats the problem with the web Once people make a statement they tend to stick with and get abusive at the drop of a hat. You started with abuse so I'm just going to not bother dealing with you until you conduct yourself less abusively. I really don;t care if you are bothred about Culldave lying or not. He can make whatever points he wishes. They are almost always complete nonsense as well.

    I really doubt that anyone born and bred in OZ that is older than 30 would not have gotten at least one of my references- are you really stating that you didn't get them. I can understand someone not getting one of them but all 3? Come on give us a break.

    Are you saying you didn't know them- I'll bet you got all 3. Its the Same in The UK - I can tell in minutes if someone was brought up in the UK or not.

    I live in the UK and Thailand but I don't claim that I am a national of either of those countries, I don't actually claim to be a National of anywhere even OZ )(obviously I AM the national of somewhere) -however I confirm that I am NOT an American.
     
  13. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    Messages:
    4,126
    Likes Received:
    176
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Actually, you do have to prove your claims. My position does not change to the fact that nobody has proven this person is not Australian... That is your claim and the basis of which you determine his credibility. Nothing you have said has changed that reality. So far all you seem to have done throughout this entire thread is abuse and attack a poster based solely on your perspective of his nationality so you proclamation of offence is futile. As yes, YOU began that cycle.
    Perhaps you should get out more, There are a lot of people older than 30 born and bred in Australia that would not get your references as Australia has prided itself on being a multicultural nation were many people bring up their children differently. Just because you understand your own reference and consider them to be normal, many do not. People living in different states have never even heard of them.
    Good for you. You believe you are so connected with the world view that you believe you can tell the nationality of somebody just by the idiom they know.
    I don't really care what nationality you are. It is what you know that I am interested in. Not what you pretend to know, not what you think you know, but what you actually do know. Problem is that at the moment, there seems nothing to talk about but crap like this. It simply breaks the boredom for me, interest would be created if there was something to talk about. Not just the ideology that one should declare their nationality to others to make them credible...
     
  14. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Hey...I have been to Aussie Land several times and in every time I went there was never one comment or conversation that was about the Royals and as far as Aussie Pop Culture concerning the Royals I would say that the Average American and Average Australian care about about what is going on in the Royal Family about as much as either countries people asking themselves...."Do we take out the trash tonight or do we put it out tomorrow night?"

    AboveAlpha
     
  15. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    4,538
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48


    With all due respect Garry17, the whole pathetic issues is about a couple of people who assumed my nationality based on a confectionary called a Jaffa. LOL

    Later, the comprehension police (Sab) tried to assume my nationality based on written comprehension. I wrote ‘went’ instead on ‘gone’. Convict me now!! LOL

    After you reviewing 14 pages of text, you would understand this person has no evidence to make any assumption or accusation towards another individuals nationality, but he/she/transgender, keeps persisting. I knew exactly what a Jaffa was, but just wanted to keep these self-professed clairvoyants guessing over my Nationality.

    I don’t waste my time reading or responding to idiots like Sab on this forum anymore, when they deliberately act stupid & rude for no reason; I push the ignore button.

    I laugh to myself about the contradictory mentality of Sab and a few others on this forum, because if I was to accuse other people that they are not Australian, based on their knowledge of a confectionary. Sab would be the first person on a do-gooder soap-box accusing me of being discriminatory and racist.

    If you hang around long enough on this forum, you always see these self-professed educated people, who proclaim they have advanced University Degrees in this ‘n’ that, fall flat on their face in the mud of stupidity.
     
  16. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38

    And your inability to identify extremely well known Australians. You are an ignorant (*)(*)(*)(*) ranting on about the Royal familly when clearly you know (*)(*)(*)(*) all/
     
  17. Rodneyk19505

    Rodneyk19505 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2013
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The Australian people and all states except Victoria voted to continue with the Monarchy (nee British): end of story.
    Her purpose is to protect, merely by her presence as head of state, the vast cultural heritage embodied in each and every citizen of British background in Australia. Squirm if you will, but squirm you must; for you are the lesser of us.:)
     
  18. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Quite.
     
  19. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Let me get this straight?

    He is questioning the veracity of you being an Aussie based upon your confectionery knowledge?!!!???? LOL!!!

    Hey...Australia is a large country and although the United States is larger we have 50 states and being from Massachusetts we have surrounding Mass....Connecticut, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire. Rode Island....and just a bit beyond Maine, Ohio, Montreal, New Jersey...etc.....and although all these places are within about 400 miles I am constantly discovering some different type of food I have never seen before.

    AboveAlpha
     
  20. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    In Europe you forgot: Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg,Lichtenstein, Belgium and the Vatican city. I would be extremely surprised if there was a monarchy on the face of the earth whose people did not know who their Monarch was.
     
  21. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    No 'Above Alpha' I am questioning him on a wide range of Australian cultural icons and he couldn't address one of them. Australia has a very small population and was until recently very culturally homogenous.

    If I asked you the following questions are really saying that you could not get one of them? If you are an American then I would be surprised if you couldn't get all 3

    1) Who says Its a wonderful day in my neighborhood........Won't you be my neighbor

    2) What is this?

    300px-Hostess-Twinkies.jpg

    3) What was this guy arrested for

    pee-wee-herman_custom-c34e2d494f0d8ad6bef8e0242a4de7cf6ce8254d-s3-c85.jpg
     
  22. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    My. Rogers

    Twinky

    Paul Ruben...AKA...Peewee Herman.

    Now what specific questions did you ask him?

    AboveAlpha
     
  23. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    See -easy easy easy.(except you didn't give me what Peewee Herman was arrested for)


    I asked him to identify confectionary every bit as famous in OZ as Twinkies are in the USA

    I asked him who had 'just been arrested in pommyland for child abuse and it was 2 little girls not boys'..and another poster made a quip about an 'extra leg'..There is not a single Australian over 10 years old who does not know who Rolf Harris is and that he had hits with "I'm Jake the Peg' and' two little boys'.

    I asked him about 2 Characters called Grace and Kitty. The real diggers got it . He had no clue about 2 characters in Australia's equivalent of the Waltons

    I specifically asked questions that you couldn't just google.

    Let me try one with you...

    What is Silly about being 'Mid on'?
     
  24. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Peewee's Theater incident.

    As far as...

    What is Silly about being 'Mid on'?

    The only thing I can think of is Talk show Middle Aged Right Wingers.

    AboveAlpha
     
  25. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Yes you got the peewee incident- of course you did its common knowledge to Americans.

    Every Australian(and Brit/Pakistani/West Indian/Indian/Bangladeshi) knows that 'Silly Mid On' is a Cricket position(roughly equivalent to Short Stop in baseball) .There is no reason why you shoul know that or who Sachin Tendulkar is.

    You see its fairly simple to devise tests which can separate the 'wheat from the chaff' and identify those people who have grown up in a country and those that haven't. When you are a child in a country you invariably share with every other child a certain shared culture that an adult arriving just wouldn't have access to especially in a country that in many areas only had one TV channel- ABC- until comparatively recently.

    I could do ones that could Identify British people too.
     

Share This Page