"Wife wasn't attracted to me after I came out as Trans"

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conforming to gender stereotypes and what is socially expected is very different from trying to go all out and alter your body to be as masculine as possible.
    As I stated, many normal men would love to have a huge hulking muscular body like he had, but are unable to achieve it even though they try.

    When you start injecting yourself with massive doses of muscle-forming male hormones, that goes beyond just "masking".

    Are you going to claim that he didn't enjoy being a WWE fighter? I mean that would be pretty extreme case of "masking" if someone chose to beat up other men in the ring as a professional career, just to hide the fact that they felt they were a woman.
     
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    NONE of YOUR IMAGINARY "transgenders" actually EXIST in reality.

    All of YOUR content is just REGURGITATED Xtofascist DISINFORMATION that has been DEBUNKED umpteen times already.

    If YOU are SERIOUSLY interested then start LEARNING the DNA that is INVOLVED that makes someone transgender.

    But you WON'T because that would TRIGGER all types of DISSONANCE because you would have to ACCEPT that being trans is NORMAL.
     
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    Thanks for CONFIRMING that you NOTHING whatsoever about how transpeople use MASKING in order to CONFORM to our current HETERONORMATIVE society.
     
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    YOU do NOT have any basis for JUDGING how someone chooses to MASK.

    ACCORDING to YOU he should have worn PASTEL shirts and Crocs and carried a "man bag" so he could "BLEND IN" and not TRIGGER the Xtofascists who HATE the entire LBGTQ community, right?

    I was into Italian superbikes and was a founding member of bike club that has been going for about 50 years now.

    Did that DISQUALIFY me from being TRANSGENDER in YOUR opinion because that is NOT what YOU associate with transpeople?

    We are NORMAL people with BODIES that do NOT align with our GENDER.

    That is ALL there is to it.

    YOU do NOT get to DICTATE how transgenders get to live THEIR lives.

    It is NONE of YOUR business, PERIOD.
     
  5. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When a person is into being a professional WWE fighter in the ring, or is into superbikes (for example), it does make some question whether that person is really "a woman on the inside".

    Isn't it possible their brains are actually those of man, rather than "those of a woman", as sometimes claimed?
     
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    Oh for FFS!

    Are YOU blissfully UNAWARE that WOMEN are also into Body Building and riding motorbikes?

    Transpeople are NORMAL, we DO all the SAME things that EVERYONE else does.

    DUMBASS heteronormative STEREOTYPES are for people STUCK in some BIZARRE Xtofascist imaginary DYSTOPIA where ONLY men are "breadwinners" and women are ALL "homemakers".

    Sad!
     
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    speaking for God now are we? maybe let him speak for himself...
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Romans 1:24-31 He did speak for Himself. That is.....if you believe. If not, it explains a lot.
     
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    in support of same sex marriage

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 7:8-9&version=NIV

    "
    8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.
    9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
    "
     
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    If you read the passage introspectively along with Romans 1 and the entire Bible, you would understand that God Created good and evil, light and dark, so we could have a choice. The ones you love, do you allow them a choice? God sure does.
     
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    Matters not the translation.
    What it states as the most important thing, is god created everything. good, bad, or indifferent. No matter what word you want to use.

    If there are gay people or other types, the verse says god created it all.
    If one doesn't like a person for being a creation of god, then they must not really like that god afterall.
     
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    Really? The wrong choice according to some religions is eternal damnation and punishment.
    Do you do that to those you love?
    I hope not.

    And this god, is omniscient?
     
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    No, of course not. They should be ashamed.Since when did the intrinsic worth of a human soul justify their turning reason upside down, granting carte blanche to this deviant cult, to run roughshod over the intrinsic worth, conscience, and liberties of a polite society? The sophistry of this cults rationale is Satanic in origin. Therefore it is destined for hell. And our nation is not its to take with it. This nation was built stone by stone by certain norms of human behavior. If this cult wishes to run contrary to those norms, then they should divorce themselves from that which is, and scatter like autumns leaves if they really want to be true to their natures, and free. Anything short of this is hypocrisy.
     
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    There is a percentage of the human population (and in many branches of animals) that have differences from the more common form.

    For YOU to decide that they should be ashamed due to the fact of their birth is just flat out disgusting. It's identical to racism, in that it is an immutable part of who they are, with no opportunity for choice.

    This has NOTHING to do with "cult". That's just a mistake.
     
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    So they're evil because they're not normal.

    So your main complaint is that it's not usual?
     
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    It's not a choice. If it was I wouldn't be gay I don't think anybody would.

    I had to struggle a long time to accept something I couldn't change. If I could have just avoided that by changing it I would have and I'm pretty sure most gay people would have too.
     
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    We've covered this ground, you and I, and I do not judge you. I do believe the Word is true. We just disagree. I don't however, question your honor.
     
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    You don't have the faith. It is pointless to discuss with you. God's ways are higher than yours or mine but you seem to resent that. If you get eternal damnation and punishment it is because you wanted it.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not going to continue to indulge your attempt at deflection and taking this discussion off topic.

    If we want to talk about religion, I'm sure we can start a separate new thread.
     
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    You dance through a lot of hoops to apply that to homosexuality! I know Bible Gateway but I bet you get your information to look these things up from a homosexual site or an atheist site. If you were searching the scriptures introspectively, I believe your viewpoint would change, but you don't. You search the scriptures selectively to prove your narrative. Doesn't work that way.
     
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    Just be gay and be done with it for crying out loud!
     
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    are you speaking to God, maybe he is...
     
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    seems to me, Jesus was saying it's better not to get married, but if you can't control yourself, get married..... for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
     
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    We can respect each other and disagree on the topic.

    I have experience with this. I realized I was gay when I was 11 years old I just spent the next 15 years trying not to be. Nothing worked.

    So if you're going to say it's a choice I'm going to confront you on it.
     
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    If I know your viewpoint is wrong because the life experience I have then I need to seek elsewhere for information.

    I think of a lot of this gay is a choice myth that people tell themselves is so they don't have to adjust their beliefs.

    Think about it this way if you find a way to believe in spite of having been wrong about your beliefs you have a stronger Faith than someone who didn't.
     

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