Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    You're right, it doesn't make sense the way the story's being told. What makes sense to me is a mother try's to influence a judge to rule her way in a custody case using her feminine ways and fails. Now is payback time.
     
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    Mister, you're a better man than I.
     
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    Pal by saying that you learn from your mistakes in life, don't let your past demons take you down eat you apart..

    By posting this your a good person..just live and learn :)
     
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    Newt stepped down because part of his affair..it wasn't Newt, the damn Republican primarys are run fair and square ( not like the rigged DNC) Hillary, Obama and company knew they had to destroy Caine because if he won he would of taken half the black vote and a bunch of blue collar democrats...

    So quit it.


    A black conservative would of destroyed Obama, I was going to vote for him.

    And I have not voted since Bush Jr the first time, Herman was my guy.
     
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  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clinton's major problem is not that he used Monica as his humidor, not that his child was inside the same home, not that his wife was there as well, not that staff knew what he was doing, it was his lying to a federal grand jury along with his perjury under oath to the congress.

    Moore has not come close to any of this. Monica and this child were not too far apart in age.

    From the story, I totally agree it disgusts the honest souls of those who care about children. A lot we do not know. What role did her mother play? I have seen mothers actually treat their own daughter as if they are priming them to be prostitutes. We seen to blame one person for a story nobody witnessed. All I know is Democrats fight like hell when it is a person in their party. Then they act hostile and unforgiving if it is the other party. This is pure party politics. The girl got used. This is not his first very high ranking job. But they decided after decades to whip up on this old man who is to be soon voted up or down.

    But they should have done this decades ago. Can you agree that they have played the waiting game when they should have taken action way back then?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Legally she was not "children." Legally she was a pubescent teen of high school age. Ask any jury. They might be able to persuade you. What are you fighting over? A middle age woman who no doubt has children. No doubt at this point highly experienced in sex. She should have confessed this 40 years ago. She would have many more believing her story.

    I am not against the woman nor her story. She sure waited far too long.
     
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    Same manager there today who was there 40 years ago?
     
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    If you dont know facts why am I talking to you. The mall manager from the same time period was the guy who worked at the "Record Bar" who made the claim that he had heard (hearsay) Moore was banned form the mall said that Moore was not on the banned list. Who has more credibility the mall manager who kept and enforced the list or a kid who worked at "the record bar" who says he heard something 40 years ago?
     
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    This is an emotional thing for her. That many women are now coming forward may have given her
    The support she needed to come forward. It is not the same as running a stop sign. The guy violated her. Her experience today is not relevant, as her sexual experience is consensual. She was a minor, if you want a different word.
     
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    Could it be that you don’t know the facts? Is the mall manager that gave this info the same person
    Who was there 40 years ago? And it doesn’t matter because he was trolling for minors at the mall.
    Nobody is forcing you to talk to me. Find someone who has the same “facts” as you and flap away.
     
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    ...and to what end?
     
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    I asked whether the manager is a different manager than the manager of 40 years ago.
     
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    Jesus!

    What is the "end game" of any and/or all these women coming forward now?
     
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    Newt, Mitch, Cruz take your pick. Keep telling yourself that bullshit.

    :roflol::roflol::roflol: Black folks were not about to vote for that boot licking tom.

    You need to quit with that BS.

    You go to far with the comedy.

    Good for you, you were one of the few when it comes to black folks.
     
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    Ha ha ha keep dreaming.
     
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    No he didn't.
     
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    Clinton and Jones wasn't.
     
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    At worst it was harassment. That's all she ever claimed. And she never proved her case. It was dismissed.

    Paula Corbin Jones (born Paula Rosalee Corbin; September 17, 1966) is a former Arkansas state employee who sued U.S. President Bill Clinton for sexual harassment. The Paula Jones case precipitated Clinton's impeachment in the House of Representatives and the subsequent acquittal by the Senate on February 12, 1999. Specifically, Clinton was asked under oath about Monica Lewinsky in the Jones suit, denied having ever had sexual relations with her, and was accused of perjury after evidence of sexual contact was exposed.

    Jones's suit was dismissed as lacking legal merit prior to Clinton's impeachment and the exposure of the Lewinsky affair. But in August 1998 Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky, and compelling evidence that he had lied about it under oath in the Jones suit, was brought to light. At that point Jones appealed the ruling, and her appeal gained traction following Clinton's admission to having an affair with Monica Lewinsky in August 1998.[1]

    On appeal, in the midst of his trial for impeachment based on his testimony in the Jones case, Clinton was faced with the prospect of having to go under oath again and testify more about his sexual history. Instead, Clinton agreed to an out-of-court settlement, paying Jones and her lawyers $850,000 to drop the suit; the vast majority of this money was used to pay Jones's legal fees.[2] Clinton's lawyer said that the President made the settlement only so he could end the lawsuit for good and move on with his life.[3] Jones and her lawyers have said the payment is evidence of Clinton's guilt.

    Jones continues to maintain that Clinton sexually harassed her. Clinton denies it.[citation needed]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones
     
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    A lot of people in this thread had to eat crow, lmao.
     
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    Hahaha! Keep repeating.
     
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    He was convicted of submitting a false affidavit and giving false testimony, perjury, and witness tampering all of which wwere obstruction of justice. She wanted to have him charged with sexual assault but the statute of limitations had run it.

    It was dismissed because under the statute at the time she had to show actual harm had occurred. Then came the BURLINGTON INDUSTRIES, INC. v. ELLERTH decision which ruled that no the plaintiff did not have to show actual harm, be fired or demoted or denied advancement for not succoming to the request for sexual favor, only that a reasonable fear such would happen. Her lawyers file to reinstate the lawsuit, not an appeal. Clinton not having a defense settled the case.

    The depostitons were alalready in and since he had already bbeen found guilty of the perjury by the judge none of his testimony would have been taken as truthful.

    He settled because he had no defense and Jones had witneses and evidence. The weight of the evidence was clearly in her favor.
     
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    And he was Impeached and paid a hefty fine ....you wanted to reward Moore
     
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    What are you talking about I didn't vote for Moore, never have in any of his runs for office, voted Democrat over him in two.

    The fact remains the Republicans impeached him and the Democrats refused to remove him from office and worship him to this day so spare me about claims of support for Moore.
     
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    Republicans also didn’t remove him....Do you really think lying about sex is a high crime and misdemeanor. I think lying about Russia and our election is a lot more serious and yet the righties want that to go away
     
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    Republicans impeached him, and he remains an impeached president, the Democrats refuse to remove him it takes a supermajority to remove and NO Democrats voted for removal. And yes when you are being sued for sexual harassment and assault your sexual behavior with other subordinate employees or women/men whomnyou had power over is subject to inquiry and testimony in that trial. Its called the Molinari Amendment which under much fanfare and celebration of more protection in the workplace by women's group President Clinton signed into law.
    And the Democrats and leftist still worship him.

    Do you really believe that if a corporate CEO is sued in court for sexual harassment he should be able to lie about it and get other people to give false testimony? Are you saying if one of Moore's accusers sues him its OK if he commits perjury and obstruction of justice and gets other women to lie in his defense? You'll be OK with that? And had he been elected and this occurred you would not be calling for his removal
     
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