Beirut explosion shatters windows across Lebanese capital

You only say that because the explosion created a mushroom...and the special place you have in your heart to Israel ofc,

It makes no sense Israel would employ a nuke for sending a message - I mean Israel fought Lebanon in 2014 and lost dozens of soldiers but didn't use a nuke, the risk far outweighs the benefit of some obscure threat - they cant even say it was a nuke so where's the deterrence ?
There are no agencies reporting any evidence a nuke was deployed...
Even Hizbullah didn't accuse Israel in this.

So why would you say it's "likely" ? its hardly even "possibly"

 

God, poor Lebanon, some people never get a break!

 

Nah! You don't mean Netanyahu? If there was radiation, wouldn't it be mentioned immediately though. It wouldn't be hidden.

Frankly I can't understand how Iran and Hezbollah can keep threatening Israel knowing how trigger happy Netanyahu is? I don't doubt that the on going explosions in Iran were the work of Mossad - in conjunction with our own government of course. This doesn't mean though that the catastrophic explosion in Lebanon was the work of Israel. But then again one never knows. Crazy men do crazy things - and I do question Netanyahu's sanity lately. But then again, he's not the only world leader that's cracking up. It seems to be a world epidemic - and more dangerous than the virus.

Also why would Trump try to cover it up by saying it was arms rather than Ammonia nitrate? But then our government lies anyway, so maybe it's to throw suspicion on Lebanon.

According to Greekpronews:

Hezbollah sought to obtain ammonium nitrate via Homs in Syria, and in 2009 tried to get it from the , Ministry of Agriculture in Lebanon.

On February 16, 2016, Nasrallah said that ammonia nitrate was stored in the port of Haifa and that there were 15,000 tons and that explosions there could cause the death of tens of thousands of people.​

"It's just like a nuclear bomb. In other words, Lebanon has a nuclear bomb. "This is not an exaggeration. Any rocket that hits the ammonia tanks will be like a nuclear bomb." ​

Nasrallah noted that Hezbollah avoided hitting ammonia in the 2006 war and that with multiple missiles it could fire ammonia with the same impact of a nuclear weapon.

He said he had consulted experts and that 800,000 people would be affected and tens of thousands would be killed.

"In addition, there is a ship that brings ammonia and distributes it to the Haifa facility and I said that the Haifa facility is the equivalent of a nuclear bomb, but the ship carrying ammonia to occupied Palestine is like five nuclear bombs, " Nasrallah said. 2017.


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Here's a video purportedly in thermal imaging mode that show a missile(?) incoming right at the time of the massive explosion.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=611795053101343

 

I was wrong here it was the Head of the Customs who wrote to the Government about getting it sorted. People are though questioning why they were put under house arrest rather than some Politicians!

 

Wow! It certainly looks impressive though the fire was already going by then. I suppose there is no possibility it is a photoshop?

 

I don't know about that, not being a techie.

The fire being already going doesn't preclude attack. It would actually be a good cover for an attack.

The ammonium nitrate had been there for years. It was no secret.

I'll just stop there for now. As it is, it's *interesting*.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/05/...osion-ship.html#click=https://t.co/JCRE4ioCAA

 

I tried to get more information. There are a few more videos from other angles which claim to show a missile but I could not see any missile on them and I haven't noticed anyone of substance saying anything about it.

 

Things are developing and pictures are being studied.

There were actually 2 explosions, separated only by 2 seconds max.

The second one was nuclear.

How did Trump know, is my question.

 

Here is one just as interesting as yours, perhaps corroborating yours. It depends on the location of the camera.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/06/breaking-israel-nukes-beirut/

 

I don't get tactical nuke out of this, as your link asserts. I've seen others alleging it, and then others come along and say any nuke would have a blinding light, which I don't see. The orange smoke is supposedly the ammonium nitrate going off.

In any case, a nuke wouldn't be necessary, given that much ammonium nitrate stored there. If it was a missile strike, the next question is political. Does Lebanon and Hezbollah want a war with Israel?

 

It was political no doubt, and I am trying to avoid theory and just examine what facts are available. If that picture is real, and so far it seems to be, a fact is that a missile descended and struck, and what resulted was an explosion that meets all the requirements for a nuclear explosion.

If the Lebanese are honest, and able to do radiological testing during the next few days, the answer will become apparent. I'm betting if testing is done, one of the things discovered will be the by-products of nuclear fission.

The short clip you provided is fascinating, but it seems the angles are different, but we don't know the exact location of either camera.

As time goes on more will be discovered. If the Lebanese government is open in its findings, and if they have the equipment necessary to measure such things, we will know more in the coming weeks.

 

I would be very surprised if both Russia and the US don't already know what did or did not happen, given both countries military assets in the area.

Trump has said it looks to be an attack, but defense officials say no.

 

There would be obvious radiation, has anyone, anywhere reported that to be so?

 

When looking at the situation of Lebanon and what it was like prior to this explosion I think it is important not to forget the US sanctions which were put in because the people did not vote the way the US Government wanted. Even before the explosion this had left many including children not able to get enough to eat.

 

In the meantime, everyone should relax here! It wasn’t any terrorist attack, nor was it a bomb workshop or any secret ammunition depot ...

IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT AND NOTHING ELSE!

The approximately 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate in the warehouse were simply contrary to all applicable safety regulations stored and with this huge amount at one place also stored illegally ... in short: someone, like in many accidents, simply gave a crap on "Safety First" !

In terms of the amount of explosives, this explosion accident is on par with the incident in Halifax / Canada at the beginning of December 1917, which was previously considered the largest accident.
Here a French cargo ship loaded with around 2,900 tons of explosives collided with another ship, caught fire and exploded in the port. Approximately 2,000 people were killed by the blast, debris, fires, or collapsed buildings, and an estimated 9,000 others were injured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion

 

I shared this on FB and it wasn't long until they greyed it out with the "fact checkers false info" They claim it's manipulated but dont go into any detail.

 

No ... just only an accident in a warehouse with 2,700 tons of Ammonium Nitrat and nothing else as that ...
No missile and nothing else as an accident!

Ammoinum Nitrat is primarily a fertilizer in agriculture ... and only secondary also an explosive device which is for example liked to be used for IEDs in Afghanistan by the Taliban.

 

Forget about the nuke. There was no nuke flash, any electronic device in that city not hardened against a nuke flash would have be instantly dead, if it were a nuke. The white cloud is water vapor.
If one looks at the storage pictures, those big white bags are a plastic fiber weave. That stuff burns great. Stacked high and close, containment vessel.
Black powder does not explode it just burns extremely fast, you have a containment vessel, the very hot gases can not escape, they expand rapidly, till the internal pressure explodes the containment vessel, rips it apart. Same with AN, when it burns, it burns rather fast.
The fire next door produced enough heat for the AN to gas out, the bags melting and starting to burn and kabum, a chain reaction that lasts about a second. Each bag about a ton, 2700 of them one goes and in less than 1 second all 2700.
One more thing, the stuff draws moisture and thus gains weight compacts. You do that with any black powder gun, you ram a wad down the barrel onto the black powder than the bullet, both seal the containment vessel, peng.

 

Photoshopped. Why would anyone be filming the event using a thermal imager

 

The one piece of information concerning this that appears as yet to have come out is as I put in post 133 that senior Custom Officials had contacted the courts at least 6 times between 2014 and 17 stating it should not be there, asking that it be moved and making suggestions on what could be done to it and got no reply. I am assuming they were the people who would allow it to be moved. Tonight I heard that some Court Officials have been arrested. Lebanon is in a hell of a state and was in a hell of a state before this happened. They even have one and a half milliion Syrian refugees which apparently would be equivelent to the UK having 15 millions. If I remember correctly the US stopped providing money to the UN for countries looking after Refugees and I remember at that time people were concerned about how that would affect Lebanon which was struggling anyway.

It is understandable that people will think it was not an accident simply because it has done what a lot of countries would have liked to have done - or certainly put Lebanon into the grosely vulnerable situation where she may be manipulated to suit their desires! Without being in one it is as if Lebanon had been devastated in a war. Did you look at the video Woogs put in. It is extremely impressive but I think was probably photoshoped. I think though am not certain that the BBC has now accepted the stated reason for the fire starting being fireworks except they begin it after mentioning the early conspiracy theories so I am not sure how much they believe it. There still is a possibility someone had a hand in that and that could be many countries including Saudi Arabia for instance. I am not saying it was started deliberately but I still think it is not impossible. Certainly in the UK yesterday a lot of focus was on how it could have started.

 

It blowed up real good.

 

Quiet simple, you can with advanced photoshop turn a image into, infrared. You put that missile in it, and than infrared it and you have a infrared picture. You do not need a thermal imager to make it look like infrared.
Its rather simple.

 

If the "fact checkers" expect to have an iota of credibility they should explain how they came to that conclusion not simply make a declaration and expect everyone to swallow it