Did you know this fact about slavery in America?

How do you figure that democrats then are the same as today? Does that mean that all those republicans in the KKK today are the same as back in the day when they fought for emancipation?

I prefer apples to bananas.

 

When was there a switch-a-roo? And why? Or is this just a bunch of hogwash and the dems are still the same.

 

so you are unfamiliar with your own nations political history. A simple wiki search and ten minutes of study might better inform you.

Facts and knowledge are great hogwash cleansers. Of course one has to actually care about facts and knowledge in formulating one's political perspective not to mention promoting it against others.

 

I gave you a list of issues. And can you point me to the link that has surveyed all the KKK member, the what 500 across the country, as to whether they belong to the Republican party and why? If they run they run under their own independent parties.

 

Oh I know what happened. I just want to see if you know.

 

Well you certainly aren't familiar with this countries history especially about the political shift that occurred over several decades in the South, and other states too. Let's not forget it wasn't just the South that changed politically. To suggest that all the segregationist ran to the Republican party, the party that had just beat them on Civil Rights and Voting rights is quite specious.

 

Hard to enslave those who you sacrifice to the spirit of the wind or the sun god. But I am sure you were trying to exclude the Mayans, Incas, and the Aztec on purpose. Don't try to convey the Natives as benign, its ignorant, as much as they were ignorant to the wheel.

 

Its funny how the left believes all those in the south that were alive in the 1960's are still alive and kicking in the south 50+ years later, and not a single one ever moved away. They also never recognize that the south had voted republican decades before the CRA. Also, every segregationist politician stayed in the dem party, but their supporters just happened to change parties, I guess they were hoping the GOP would start up with racist laws like the dems had always done? BTW, those dem politicians were still reelected several times after the CRA. The who "southern strategy" is a false narrative and trying to prove it wrong is like trying to prove a god doesn't exist. It cant be done and that's why those who believe it have to score a "10" in the mental gymnastics.

 

It was the younger generation such as myself growing up with the Democrats in control and the segregation they supported that started the change. We witnessed the back of the bus, segregated counters, water fountains, restrooms, the oppression by the Democrats local and state governments. I got attacked in the school restroom by a gang of whites because I made friends with the first black students to come to our school. I was VP of the teenage Republicans in a major Southern city 1968-70 as our age group turned against the Democrats and for they had stood for.

 

Exactly, the kids of the racist defied their parents, like athiests defy religious parents, or socialist defy their rich capitalist parents.

 

Two RNC chairmen apologized for the Southern Strategy.

It was a thing -- a real, verifiable thing, and only brain-dead bitter clingers refuse to accept that reality.

 

Apologizing for finding Goldwater's notes, or for the implementation? There is no proof that anyone switched for racist reasons, since the biggest part of the GOP platform is economic freedoms, not social programs like democrats. Democrats say "if you take away welfare, you do so to hurt blacks."

 

Plain and simple, dems still vote based off race/gender, while GOP vote for policies that benefit them. Since its illegal to make laws that target discrimination of POC and women, that isn't the policies the GOP present.

https://politicallywag.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/why-did-white-southerners-become-republicans/

 

Haven't not interacted with you before, just took a look at the threads you've started.

Yow. Explains a lot.

 

And? Use logic and change my mind.

 

You're absolutely consumed with race. That much is clear.

No interest in continuing conversation with you.

Have a nice day.

 

I didn't for a moment suggest that all the segregationists ran to the republican party. Quite a specious strawman, wot?

 

Here's the real thing from the guy who helped create it

"Now, as a co-architect of the Nixon strategy that gave the GOP a lock on the White House for a quarter century, let me say that Kristol’s opportunism is matched only by his ignorance. Richard Nixon kicked off his historic comeback in 1966 with a column on the South (by this writer) that declared we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the “party of Maddox, Mahoney and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.”

In that ’66 campaign, Nixon – who had been thanked personally by Dr. King for his help in passing the Civil Rights Act of 1957 – endorsed all Republicans, except members of the John Birch Society.

In 1968, Nixon chose Spiro Agnew for vice president. Why? Agnew had routed George (“Your home is your castle!”) Mahoney for governor of Maryland but had also criticized civil-rights leaders who failed to condemn the riots that erupted after the assassination of King. The Agnew of 1968 was both pro-civil rights and pro-law and order.

When the ’68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.

Between 1969 and 1974, Nixon – who believed that blacks had gotten a raw deal in America and wanted to extend a helping hand:

* raised the civil rights enforcement budget 800 percent;

* doubled the budget for black colleges;

* appointed more blacks to federal posts and high positions
than any president, including LBJ;

* adopted the Philadelphia Plan mandating quotas for blacks
in unions, and for black scholars in colleges and
universities;

* invented “Black Capitalism” (the Office of Minority Business
Enterprise), raised U.S. purchases from black businesses
from $9 million to $153 million, increased small business
loans to minorities 1,000 percent, increased U.S. deposits
in minority-owned banks 4,000 percent;

* raised the share of Southern schools that were
desegregated from 10 percent to 70 percent. Wrote the
U.S. Commission on Civil Rights in 1975, “It has only been
since 1968 that substantial reduction of racial segregation
has taken place in the South.”

The charge that we built our Republican coalition on race is a lie. Nixon routed the left because it had shown itself incompetent to win or end a war into which it had plunged the United States and too befuddled or cowardly to denounce the rioters burning our cities or the brats rampaging on our campuses.

Nixon led America out of a dismal decade and was rewarded with a 49-state landslide. By one estimate, he carried 18 percent of the black vote in 1972 and 25 percent in the South. No Republican has since matched that. To see Kristol colluding with the Times to rewrite that history to make liberals heroes and Republicans villains tells us more about him than about the era.

And where were the necons, when Goldwaterites and Nixonites were building the New Majority? Going all the way with LBJ."
buchanan.org/blog/pjb-the-neocons-and-nixons-southern-strategy-512

The real "Southern Strategy" was the Democrats realizing they could no longer win by supporting segregation so they had to turn to making blacks dependent on them them.

 

Well then what were you suggesting?

 

There are reasons not to belong to EITHER political party - the history of the KKK is tied to early Democrats and the recent history of the KKK and American Nazi is tied to the Republicans.

 

slavery is evil.

case closed

 

Republicans don't endorse, or fund, or belong to the KKK. The GOP voters didn't vote in KKK members willingly, and kicked them out if they happened to be one. The dems voted in KKK members till their death in 2008. Not a single known KKK member ever had more than one term when it was known of their history

 

I replied to the notion that the racist democrats of the 19th century are the same as democrats today.

In the interests of accuracy, I should have said the KKK is "aligned" with the republican party as are any number of other white supremacist and racist groups including neo nazi scum, today. A situation that points to the stupidity of the poster's original comment.

Are there racist democrats? Of course. Bigotry is a human trait shared by all in one form or another. Its the degree of expression and the object of the bigotry that differentiates us all.

 

Which republican law maker supports any of these groups? Many dems openly supported the kkk, and they also supported the rape fest that was OWS, and the black supremacist BLM and Latino supremacist La Raza. The republicans have supported absolutely zero identity political groups, as you see so many times with the left, just as they did when they formed the kkk. Dems of old, are still the same today, they are just changed from supporting one racial identity hate group to supporting any non-white racial identity hate group.

 

Modern Republican and KKK goals are interchangable in most issues. Just the way it is.