Did you know this fact about slavery in America?

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Goldwater was one of just six Senate Republicans to vote against the bill in 1964, while 21 Senate Democrats opposed it. It passed by an overall vote of 73-27. In the House, 96 Democrats and 34 Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act, passing with an overall 290-130 vote. While most Democrats in both chambers voted for it, the bulk of the opposition still was from Democrats.

    Time magazine even largely credited Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-Ill.) for pushing the sweeping legislation through, putting him on the cover after final passage... -> https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/04/10/whos-really-responsible-for-the-civil-rights-act

    Did you know that the 13th Amendment to outlaw slavery in 1864 was defeated in the House of Representatives ?

    They stopped teaching that in our public schools when cultural-marxist revisionist history was adopted during the 1960's.
     
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    ROFL well there were more of them DUH.
     
  3. Paperview

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    So the democrats (general) didn't "lose the Civil Rights and Voting Rights battles" -- as you said --
    just the conservative southern democrats.

    Glad we cleared that up.
     
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  4. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Today, you would call those republicans snowflake liberals marxists leftist.

    You don't fool us.
     
  5. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The OP seems obsessive over this. Are you calling him a leftist??
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong. It's the right that label Lincoln a traitor for having invaded the South. Rewriting history now are you??
     
  7. rcfoolinca288

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    Funny how you and your kind talk about left and right, liberal and conservative until it comes to the issue of slavery. I got news for you, those "democrats" are CONSERVATIVES. Another fact conservatives are unwilling to accept.
     
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    If the "left" is so preoccupied with slavery, than why is it that this thread was started by one of the more extreme right wingers here, and features right wing psedo intellectual claptrap from Distort 'd Newza!
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The KKK supports the republican party.
     
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    The conservatives have always support the party of slaves, one reason why the republicans are upset with the liberals that freed them.
     
  11. Sharpie

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    Completely repulsive. They think their duplicity is clever.
    BTW - The mods deleted my post that you responded to above because they said I was trolling.
     
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    Southern Conservatives are the people that did not want to end slavery.
     
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    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They told you that -- or was it the propaganda machine.
     
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    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They were democrats and slave owners.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So is Breitbart the right wing's bible? What a stupid assertion.
     
  16. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Either your education was really bad, or you are part of the Left mis-information army.
     
  17. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem to have an issue with admitting that they were white conservatives. Why?
     
  18. rcfoolinca288

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    Naw....you just believe in revisionists history. Tell me those people were not conservative Christian white men. You can't.
     
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    Propaganda machine?? LOL....straight from the horse's mouth, David Duke, the ex grand wizard of the KKK supported Trump.
     
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    So you just did that eh? Thank you for admitting you are a leftist.
     
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    Thanks, did not know that. Well, it's embarrassing that the 13th failed on the first attempt in the house.
     
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    We were still fighting the bloodiest war in our history...
    and, it was an election year.

    The rest of the story Appy leaves out (he's fond of half-truths):

    A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation

    References to debate on the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) can be found in the Congressional Globe on the following dates:

    • March 31, 1864 - Debated in the Senate (S.J. Res. 16).
    • April 4, 1864 - Debated in the Senate.
    • April 5, 1864 - Debated in the Senate.
    • April 6, 1864 - Debated in the Senate.
    • April 7, 1864 - Debated in the Senate.
    • April 8, 1864 - The Senate passed the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 38 to 6.
    • June 14, 1864 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • June 15, 1864 - The House of Representatives initially defeated the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 93 in favor, 65 opposed, and 23 not voting, which is less than the two-thirds majority needed to pass a Constitutional Amendment.
    • December 6, 1864 - Abraham Lincoln's Fourth Annual Message to Congress was printed in the Congressional Globe: "At the last session of Congress a proposed amendment of the Constitution, abolishing slavery throughout the United States, passed the Senate, but failed for lack of the requisite two-thirds vote in the House of Representatives. Although the present is the same Congress, and nearly the same members, and without questioning the wisdom or patriotism of those who stood in opposition, I venture to recommend the reconsideration and passage of the measure at the present session."
    • January 6, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives (S.J. Res. 16).
    • January 7, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • January 9, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • January 10, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • January 11, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • January 12, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • January 13, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • January 28, 1865 - Debated in the House of Representatives.
    • January 31, 1865 - The House of Representatives passed the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 119 to 56.
    • February 1, 1865 - President Abraham Lincoln signed a Joint Resolution submitting the proposed 13th Amendment to the states.
    • December 18, 1865 - Secretary of State William Seward issued a statement verifying the ratification of the 13th Amendment.
    Abraham Lincoln Papers at the Library of Congress


    https://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/ourdocs/13thamendment.html
     
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    There were reasons why the 13th Amendment failed being passed in Congress, most Americans living in the North still remember the Nat Turner Rebellion and they were in fear what would happen if 3.9 million free slaves who had no education or worthwhile skills were roaming the countryside.

    The movie you see today on cable about the Nat Turner Rebellion, "Birth of a Nation" is PC revisionist history.
    Nat Turner was responsible for prolonging slavery in America for thirty years.
    If there was no Nat Turner slave rebellion in 1833 the United States would have followed Great Britain's example of outlawing slavery in 1833.

    The first slave owner in Colonial America was a black man.

    It was a black man who prolonged slavery in America for 30 years.
     
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    This is true...

    75% of the Jewish population living in the South before the Civil War owned slaves.

    Lincoln used to call them Jews with Egyptian principles.
     
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    Pile of crapinola.

    Another lie.

    Don't even try, Appy to take me on about this...I guarantee you'll get ..."Punch'd"

    Been round this Lost Cause pablum rodeo about a thousand times by now.
     
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