Did you know this fact about slavery in America?

Oh people like antifa, who use fascist tactics to fight....fascism. lol. Can't make this crap up. And then the people who believe in 70 odd personal pronouns. You know the fake liberal social marxists and a bit of post modernism thrown in. Loony tunes in other words. Some kind of mutation from what I can tell.

 

Straight from David Duke.

Total number of slaveholders, 1860:
393,967


"A few Jews even became prominent slaveowning planters in the Old South ... as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves - about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South."

- Rodriguez, Junius. The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997

 

I bet you were taught revisionist history when it came to the "Great Rebellion," aka "The War Between the States" more commonly known today as the "Civil War" and were indoctrinated that this battle flag was the flag of the Confederate States of America.

Anyone before revisionist history was adopted by the Marxist and the radical left knows it's just a battle flag.


Flag of the Confederacy on the left and the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia on the right.

Now when you go to the library and look at newspapers published in the North from 1861 - 1865 why don't they refer to the War Between the States the Civil War but always referred it as the "Great Rebellion" ?

Legal reasons, international law and Vattel's "Laws of Nations" comes into play. If Lincoln called it a civil war President Lincoln would have been an international war criminal.

It's all found here.
Constitution and the Laws of War during the Civil War, The Federal Courts, Practice & Procedure -> https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/v...ir=1&article=1252&context=faculty_scholarship

 

Appy's tried and true tactic -- change the topic / does not address the post being replied to.

Happens all the time.

 

Appy has cited Anthony Johnson dozens of times here thru the years.

He gets schooled on this, and still repeats his same tired line: "The first slave owner in Colonial America was a black man."

I'm hitting the sack soon, but for those interested in one of the many times:
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Anthony Johnson's case was in 1656.

Slavery was legalized in Massachusetts in 1641.

There were laws regarding fugitive slaves there in the 1630's.

Do the math. 1630's is earlier than 1656.

Johnson's 1656 case "was the first instance of a judicial determination in the Thirteen Colonies holding that a person who had committed no crime could be held in servitude for life."

John Punch is considered by historians to be the very first official slave.

"In July 1640, the Virginia Governor's Council sentenced him to serve for the remainder of his life as punishment for running away to Maryland."

Hugh Gwyn was his master.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Punch_(slave)

http://blackamericaweb.com/2012/07/3...ct-john-punch/

 

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Contrary to that statement, there are historical records before the birth of the United States that prove you wrong. Southern representatives that helped create the confederation of States and responsible for the creation of our Constitution and the Bill of Rights were slave holders. I fact the first legal slave holder in the Colonies was a Black man under English Common Law.

Anthony Johnson (colonist) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)
Anthony Johnson (b. c. 1600 – d. 1670) was a black Angolan who achieved freedom in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia after serving his term of indenture. He became a property owner that owned slaves, and was one of the first people in Virginia to have his right to own a slave legally recognized. Held as an indentured servant in 1621, he earned his freedom after several years, and was granted land by the colony.
He later became a successful tobacco farmer in Maryland. He attained great wealth after having been an indentured servant and has been referred to as “'the black patriarch' of the first community of Negro property owners in America".[1]

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First Black Slaves Brought By The Dutch To The Colony Of ...
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Aug 20, 2017 · The first slave Africans brought to an English colony in North America were forcibly ... First Black Slaves Brought By The Dutch To The Colony Of Jamestown, 1619

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History of Slavery
https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arihuang/academic/abg/slavery/...
In 1654, John Casor became the first legal slave in America. Anthony Johnson, previously an African indentured slave, claimed John Casor as his slave. The Northampton County rule against Casor, and declared him propter for life by Anthony Johnson. Since Africans were not English, they were not covered by the English Common Law.

 

LOL. And right on cue.

 

"Republicans think the Civil War was an afront to private property rights"

Pulled that one right out of your hat - or was it an un-named anonymous source -

Lets go back about 80 years - ever hear of the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment using black men as subjects? - Oh, that's right - the fake news will never tell you about that fiasco run by the Democrats of the period. What about internment camps for asians - Oh, that's right - the fake news will never tell you about that fiasco also run by the Democrats of the period. Geez - Back in the 60's, George Wallace and all of the rest of the segregationsts were also Democrats. In the 60's LBJ passed the "great society" welfare bill guaranteeing blacks would be segregated into the inner city - and the Democrats have supported and enhanced such aparthied laws since then.

We used to have the "know nothings" back in the 19th century and now we have the "do nothings" in the congress in the 21st century - the probhlem is that they're from both parties, doing nothing about open borders and immigration; about victims rights and the right to protect ones home and family - but, given a chance, they will do something to raise the taxes.

 

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You are partially correct in that statement. There were no Africans in the Americas in 1492. In fact Europeans didn't step foot on the continent of the Americas until the 16th Century. In fact there was slavery on the Northern and Southern Hemispheres of the Americas long before Europeans set foot.


Slavery among Native Americans in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
Slavery among Native Americans in the United States includes slavery by Native Americans as well as slavery of Native Americans roughly within the present-day United States. Tribal territories and the slave trade ranged over present-day borders. Some Native American tribes held war captives as slaves prior to and during European colonization, some Native Americans were captured and sold by others into slavery to Europeans, and a small number of tribes, in the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, adopted the practice of holding slaves as chattel property and held increasing numbers of African-American slaves.
Pre-contact forms of slavery were generally distinct from the form of chattel slavery developed by Europeans in North America during the colonial period.[1] European influence greatly changed slavery used by Native Americans. As they raided other tribes to capture slaves for sales to Europeans, they fell into destructive wars among themselves, and against Europeans.

 

Indentured servitude was legal not someone who became someone else private property until Anthony Johnson who became the first man to own a slave for life as personal property.

Kit Carson came under the same laws that covered escaped slaves since he flew the coop when he was an indentured servant.

 

Native American tribes just not owned slaves many being black slaves but also participated in the slave trade well into the 1880's and some tribes still owned slaves in America into the 1890's.

One of the problems was that American Indian tribes were sovereign nations so the 13th Amendment didn't effect them unless it was written into a treaty they signed with the federal government.

Just as the 14th Amendment didn't affect Native Americans becoming U.S. citizens if they were born on U.S. soil, they were sovereign nations.

For anyone who is interested and you were never taught this in school if you were exposed to PC revisionist history go to page XV in the 1860's U.S. Census report under "Indian Slavery."
-> https://www2.census.gov/prod2/decennial/documents/1860a-02.pdf

My guess is the only reason Native Americans were given a complete pass for participating in the slave trade and owning slaves is because they are a protected group under political correctness.

 

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Before we know it, we'll be shut down because we made the Lefties eat their words and showed the truth about slavery in the U.S.

 

LOL.oh you guys.......y'all are too funny. So now y'all make excuses for slavery because the native americans had slaves? So white men have no mind of their own and have to copied the people which they thought were heathens. The only people that should eat their words is you people who makes such dumb pathetic excuses. So the white men are no better than the native americans. Got it.

 

Yup. One hundred seventy years ago, that was true.

The Republican party was the Yankee party, the party of the railroad and iron barons, and of Wall Street.

The GOP presided over the military occupation of the South from 1865 toll 1877. Indeed, that occupation did not end until the GOP made a deal with two of these rail barons (Jay Gould and Tom Scott) that put their candidate in the White House (Rutherford B Hayes).

Nearly every white man in the South was a Democrat after that until 1964. After that, they all started drifting towards the GOP. And now they're all with the GOP. And it was civil rights that did it.

 

See what I mean? He did it again,

 

One, we've been over this lie. The Democrats didnt lose the civil rights battle, southern racists did. Democrats voted to pass the civil rights act by a 60% majority. The 90% from former Confederate states who voted against it lost it.

Secondly, not all black people receive welfare and the majority of welfare recipients are white. And slaves is what we were under that confederate flag Republican voters in the south fought so hard to keep flying at state capitals. And the statues of the people who fought under that flag are being protected by Republican legislators.

And where did they're voters go? Those states who's congressmen voted against the civil rights act by 90% which party control those states today?

 

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You are skewing the issue. The U.S. did not begin slavery in America but abolished it within it's borders within 70 years of it's creation. That is what the Civil War was all about. Democrats of the South fought against the end of slavery. No one is making excuses for something that is factual from time immemorial to the present day around the world. Did the Lincoln abolish Slavery in America? Yes! Did We as a nation abolish slavery in the world? NO!
Does slavery continue? Yes! Look to the Middle East and Muslim countries for those who continue to enslave others. Just recently a man and wife were arrested in Texas for slavery of another person. Do you blame America, yourself or me for the enslavement of that person? I make no excuses for the past, nor do I dwell on it. Slavery is an abomination and to continue to blame the U.S. for what was inherited from British rule is wrong. My family came to America in the early 20th Century. I was born here, I've never owned or wanted to own a slave. What men did hundreds of years ago I detest, but to continue to rub salt into a would that was excised from America in the 19th Century is wrong.

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Noooooo it isn't. Lived among the red states for a couple years. Its not called the civil war in the south. It is, 99% of the time, referred to as the war of northern aggression.

 

I learned never to trust movies long ago.

 

And we've been over the facts already the Southern segregationist found their home in the Democratic party which was the party that opposed civil rights and voting rights until they finally lost the fight and that position became unteniable.

Strawman

I doubt you were ever a slave and the slaves that did live here lived under the stars and stripes of the United States flag not only for decades longer but alsobduring the Civil War and after the Civil War.

They eventually died out and our younger generations who had rejected segregation took over. To believe the South of today is the same South of the segregationists Democrats is absurd.

 

Not with me since they were Democrats and they were not conservative Democrats they were Populist Democrats which has been explained to you in the past. You keep trying to pretend they were not Democrats. That's utter folly.

 

They were Populist.

 

In the context of this Forum it was sadly a guy from the right who created this thread so who is obsessed with slavery?

Thank you for agreeing with me that no African slaves in the Americas prior to 1492 + a few years.

 

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Convict Transportation to America: ​

http://www.earlyamericancrime.com/convict-transportation/epilogue/epilogue
Of the 585,800 immigrants to the thirteen colonies during the years 1700-1775, about 52,200 were convicts and prisoners (9 percent of the total). During these same years, slaves by far constituted the largest group of immigrants (278,400; 47%), followed by people arriving with their freedom (151,600; 26%) and indentured servants (96,600; 18%). Note that almost three quarters of all the people arriving in the American colonies during this time period did so without their freedom.

From the early 1600s until the American Revolution of 1776, the British colonies in North America received transported British criminals. In the 17th century transportation was carried out at the expense of the convicts or the ship owners. The Transportation Act 1717 allowed courts to sentence convicts to seven years' transportation to America. In 1720, an extension authorized payments by the Crown to merchants contracted to take the convicts to America. The Transportation Act made returning from transportation a capital offence.[49][55] The number of convicts transported to North America is not verified -

England transported its convicts, political prisoners as well as prisoners of war from Scotland and Ireland to its overseas colonies in the Americas from the 1610s until early in the American Revolution in 1776, when transportation to America was temporarily suspended by the Criminal Law Act 1776 (16 Geo. 3 c.43).[1] The practice was mandated in Scotland by an act of 1785, but was less used there than in England. Transportation on a large scale resumed with the departure of the First Fleet to Australia in 1787, and continued there until 1868.

 

Ah... the amount that show up at a rally = all the people who support a certain cause.
right...

Attempt to don't get any Muslims, and an attempt to not get any latin Americans....
you think the KKK likes the idea of keeping out the brown people?