7 eye popping numbers from worldwide heatwave

Cool beans, but I am talking about here, and I am not talking about any 'man made global warming' which you seem to be obsessed with.

"Miami, Florida, hit a record for 38 days with a heat index above 100 F. In fact, the NWS issued its first ever excessive heat advisory for Miami on July 17, 2023. El Paso, Texas, crushed their record of consecutive days with triple digit heat"

Globally? Apparently the first two weeks of July were the Earth's hottest on human record.

 

I'm not discussing man made global warming. Heat waves are mainly caused by natural variability, with humans enhancing them a small amount.

 

They "clarified" that their headlines were based on temperatures taken on the surface rather than two meters above, and therefore were not records. I put "clarified" (their word) in quotes because they actually should have "retracted."

 

LOL. Sure man.

 

See for yourself.
Europe’s “48°C Horror That Never Was”…ESA, Media Sharply Criticized For Manipulative Reporting
By P Gosselin on 19. July 2023

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“The most intense climate lie”: Last week it was all over the news: Temperatures in southern Europe skyrocketing to 48°C! But none of it was true.



Surface temperature chart: European Space Agency (ESA)

The hysteria was started when climate sensationalist media outlets in Germany and elsewhere, like the Relotius Spiegel, uncritically cited a sloppily and manipulatively formulated July 13 report from the European Space Agency (ESA), that first referred to “air” temperature:

Temperatures are sizzling across Europe this week amid an intense and prolonged period of heat. And it’s only just begun. Italy, Spain, France, Germany and Poland are all facing a major heatwave with air temperatures expected to climb to 48°C on the islands of Sicily and Sardinia – potentially the hottest temperatures ever recorded in Europe.”

The original ESA report continued, only later specifying that it was in fact referring to surface temperature (emphasis added):

The animation below uses data from the Copernicus Sentinel-3 mission’s radiometer instrument and shows the land surface temperature across Italy between 9 and 10 July. As the image clearly shows, in some cities the surface of the land exceeded 45°C, including Rome, Naples, Taranto and Foggia. Along the east slopes of Mount Etna in Sicily, many temperatures were recorded as over 50°C.”

Meant here were not the standard temperatures recorded at 2 meters above ground level that we always hear in daily weather reports, which are much cooler, but rather those right at the ground surface. That crucial difference went totally unnoticed by media and journalists, who reported of new record high temperatures. By the time the ploy was exposed by careful readers, the news had already gone around the world.

Yesterday, the ESA issued a (vague) clarification explaining the difference between surface and air temperature at 2 meters above ground, yet continued to mislead:

Land surface temperature is how hot the ‘surface’ of Earth feels to the touch. Air temperature, given in our daily weather forecasts, is a measure of how hot the air is above the ground.”

The ESA did not bother to mention how the surface temperature is much hotter than the 2 meter air temperature.

“Most intense climate lie”

“What we experienced over the past days was most intense climate lie since temperature recording began,” reported Germany’s Achtung Reichelt here on the implications of the ESA’s sloppy, manipulative press release and the media firestorm that ensued: “The problem with that report is that none of it is true.”

In Sicily the temperature reached only 32°C over the weekend – a far cry from 48°C, which illustrates the great difference between ground surface temperature and readings taken 2 meters above the ground.

Once the trickery was exposed, Spiegel quietly changed the wording in its July 14 report:



Image cropped from Achtung Reichelt.

Spiegel changed the text (left) from 48°C with “many heat deaths” over to (right): “48°C …but that the measurements were not the usual air temperature – which can be considerably lower.”

It’s clear that the authorities and media tries to pull a fast one on the public, but were caught again thanks to careful readers.

 

Manatee Bay is very shallow, but this is close to a world record, and the water all around South Florida even in deeper waters is extremely warm which would not be a good thing is a hurricane gets near. Its also a danger to the coral reefs

Like a hot tub: Water temperatures off Florida soar over 100 degrees, stunning experts
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weathe...a-soar-100-degrees-stunning-experts-rcna96163
A buoy near Manatee Bay recorded an astounding 101.1-degree water temperature Monday, a temperature common for hot tubs.
On Monday, as much of the country stewed in bubbling heat, a boiling milestone was hit — a buoy in Florida registered a jaw-dropping 101.1 degrees Fahrenheit water temperature.

This was on the heels of the same buoy in Manatee Bay registering 100.2 degrees on Sunday. For perspective, the average hot tub temperature is 100-102 degrees F.

While the readings would've been considered a possible outlier or sensor error, surrounding buoys recorded similarly high temperatures, with 99.3 F at Murray Key and 98.4 F at Johnson Key.

 

So, just out of curiosity: what do those numbers look like today (7/30/23)

 

This may be of interest.

ALARMIST MESSENGERS/CLAIMS
The Warming-Obsessed Media is Wrong About July’s Hot Weather
". . . These commentators conveniently ignore below average temperatures in Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe and large swaths of Russia. In fact, people in my city here in India were wearing sweaters during the same week despite it being the middle of a tropical summer.

Even in the U.S., temperatures have not been as dangerous as portrayed. Chris Martz, a meteorologist, notes that “the entire Lower 48 is only nine-hundredths of a degree Fahrenheit above average [relative to 1991-2020]. Month-to-date temperatures are much cooler this year than just last year and are nothing compared to 1980 or 2011.”. . . ."

 

I read that the "whirlpoolbath" temps in Manatee Bay,FL have dropped to 86F - near normal.

 

A denialist blogsite. Got anything from real media? Hell I'd even look at fox.

 

Only think that site "denies" is the misinformation of the "we're burning up" chicken littles.

 

Yup.
How To Push a Climate Crisis Hoax: Florida’s Record Ocean Temperature
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The hottest temperature ever recorded in the state of Florida was 109 degrees on June 29, 1931, in Monticello located over 400 miles north of Everglades National Park. . . .

". . . . A buoy in Manatee Bay managed by the Everglades National Park, is located north of Key Largo and indicated by the 2 red arrows in illustrations below. The official buoy data (upper left graph) shows water temperatures bounced between ~90°F and ~101 on consecutive two days then plummeted to 85-86°F over the following days! Clearly those water temperatures were being driven by dynamics other than rising CO2. . . . "

 

The story and the data on which it is based are accurate and have not been challenged anywhere. Take it or leave it.

 

Are they just saying that only before the last ice age could it have been this hot, not that it was?

 

It denies reality.

 

And yet you're the one posting unsupported claims.

 

I was watching a movie from 1934 the other day, Heat Lightning. Takes place in the desert outside LA. In the beginning a guy and his wife pull up to the gas pump and as they are getting their car fixed comment on how hot it is. The woman character who owns the station quips about how this is the moderate time and how the other night at the picture show they were showing a film of Africa and the narrator commented on how hot it was in Africa at 112 degrees in the shade. Heck she said it was 125 degrees in the movie theater at night.

 

It's Summer in Texas. It happens every year.

 

No, it doesn't. It denies, irrational panic based on questionable to non existent fallacies.

 

This is a sophisticated assessment of 2023's heat.

State of the climate – summer 2023
Posted on August 14, 2023 by curryja
by Judith Curry, Jim Johnstone, Mark Jelinek

A deep dive into the causes of the unusual weather/climate during 2023. People are blaming fossil-fueled warming and El Nino, and now the Hunga-Tonga eruption and the change in ship fuels. But the real story is more complicated.

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Just finished reading this. Curry et. al do a great job breaking things down. Even an amateur novice like myself can glean a lot of good information. I just started ready Curry's book "Climate uncertainty and risk: rethinking our response".

 

There is a lot, and I mean a lot, to consider on this general subject. Climate change is given. The weather and the climate will change. And, sure, human population, human exploitation of organic reserves, turning carbon chains into gas, contribute to it. And benefit from doing so. Generally to the extent that it is no contest between the benefits provided to humanity by its use of organic reserves versus the extent that it is detrimental to humanity. When I assert this, I do mean to include global mean temperatures, sea levels, etc, that are drummed up on behalf of Greta and Al's forewarnings of Environmental Collapse.

Significant. In my experience, there are a wide range of what this means. Ricin - one milligram is significant. 300 to 600 ppm CO2 in our atmosphere, I struggle to match my understanding of the GHG effect with this, and with H2O vapor as well. But, it is certainly invalid for anyone familiar with very small amounts of stuff that can cause big problems to argue that CO2 ppms are too small to matter. It's possible that these CO2 ppm increases are doing exactly what the IPCC and its adherents claim.

Where I stalwartly think I might possibly make a stand is about solutions, and / or alternatives. The current impetus I think is unlikely to succeed, 100% EV cars, for example....

 

False claims amid the heatwave tub-thumping.
UK’s Global Boiling Summer Was as Hot As 1857!
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This is the fact that average summer temperatures continue to fail to beat 1976, even if hot summers have tended to become more common. . . .

 

The size of a particle isn't ext controlling factor. Carbon and CO2 are small and benign. ricin - not so much. As a GHG CO2's role is minimal, contributing 1-4% (numbers vary) of total GHG warming.