Android continues to own Apple - Now half a million activations a day

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  1. hoytmonger

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    Ain't that the truth. Years of playing guitar and shooting firearms have left me with tinnitus that can be deafening at times.
    Also my iMac can only convert audio at 24 bits, even though the flac downloads are 32.
    On another note... I just received my iPod back from the "aftermarket" repair service and it functions properly... for only $31 and change (including shipping).
    Screw Apple, their customer service sucks.
     
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    Sort of. What you're seeing is a limitation of the official flac encoders. They are not Mac specific. The official encoders will only support 16-bit or 24-bit integer files, but a number of audio processing suites (Audacity, for example) work with 32-bit floating point samples by default. The FLAC file you're dealing with isn't actually 32-bit (FLAC doesn't support any floating point samples, much less 32-bit floating point samples--there is no current FLAC encoder that supports 32-bit integer files). It's 24-bit, but the audio software is converting that to a 24-bit fractional + 8-bit exponent floating point sample when you work on it, and dropping that 8-bit exponent part when it gets encoded again.

    In other words, your Mac is not lying to you about it. It's using the official encoder, the same one used by just about everyone, which only supports up to 24-bit integer samples. You can work with higher bitrates, but you need to export to something other than FLAC if you want to export 32-bit floating point samples.
     
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    The purpose of lossless encoding is mainly for archiving master copies and to avoid transcoding issues, not actual listening. Even when dealing with high bitrate files, transcoding lossy filescan introduce audible artifacts. You don't have that problem if you are always encoding from a lossless file. In other words, MP3 -> AAC is always going to be worse than FLAC -> MP3 & FLAC -> AAC. That's why you want to keep FLAC files, not because the compression itself is bad.

    There is no reason to go past 192kbps AAC @ 44.1khz for regular listening. I'm not really sure why anyone would use MP3 these days, since most devices also support AAC.
     
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    The lack of managed syncing with Android is probably my biggest single complaint. Other than the poor performance, of course. Drag and drop by default really sucks as a way to manage a large music library.
     
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    There are a couple of applications that will allow you to use i-tunes for managed syncing, if that is what you prefer. There are a few other non i-tunes programs you can use if you don't like i-tunes.

    I personally prefer drag/drop to managed syncing. Managed syncing seems too kindergarten to me.
     
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    You are misinformed. Not only does android have managed syncing, they have more than 1 option for managed syncing. Or you can use drag and drop if you prefer.
     
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    well the last part of you post kinda describe me. i do have the gear to hear the difference.
    i'm one of the few who even got into sacd and dvd-audio.
    and iin the end i don't want to have my music in multiple format. as for the flash thing,it is on its way out. both microsoft and apple are behind html5 which will replace it.
     
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    Unless you use a Mac, in which case you're (*)(*)(*)(*) out of luck.
     
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    I really don't like shuffling out hundreds of songs by hand when I decide to change out my music library.
     
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    ???

    Why? You can still sync with a Mac. The only difference is that you do it over wifi and don't actually have to plug it in.
     
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    You sort through the same hundreds of songs in your library software if you are changing your collection.

    If you sort your music files in a logical manner it is no more difficult to find and sort them through file explorer than it is through any management software.

    What is interesting is you can create and sort your library in windows media player as well and sync through it too. I-tunes is one option, but not the only way.
     
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    No, you can't.
     
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    Or I just tell it to pick enough random songs to fill the space on my device, and it does so automatically.
     
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    In cases like that I usually just use Pandora. I get a pretty good selection of random music, all falling into whatever style I'm looking for at the moment. Plus, I don't have to use up much space on my SD card.
     
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    Ok...

    Here are instructions from for syncing with a Mac:

    http://lifehacker.com/5801473/how-to-sync-android-with-your-mac-as-seamlessly-as-an-iphone

    or

    http://www.markspace.com/products/a...d_mac_syncsw&gclid=CPfRkdLM76sCFQPj7QodLkwcTA

    or

    http://www.mactricks.net/tips-tricks/sync-android-with-mac/

    or even use itunes to sync...

    http://androidforums.com/android-media/139655-how-sync-itunes-android.html

    You may want to try to find out how to do something before claiming that it isn't possible.
     
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    4 million 4s phones sold in 5 only 5 counties..no white phone yet and a bunch of other releases set to take place. Theyre sell even more briskly than I imagined,

    The siri voice command looks like a lot more than I gave it credit for.




    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/17/meaning-life-ask-siri-in-iphone-4s/#ixzz1b3Dvb61W
     
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    You may want to actually try following the directions before claiming they work. Yes, you can sync your contact data and calendar through Google's web services, but you're not getting music, movies and such that way. Salling Media Sync is a bad joke.
     
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    Dude, seriously. Take the apple seals off your eyes.

    From one of my links:

    "DoubleTwist is called "iTunes for Android" for a reason. Not only does it look like a miniature iTunes, but it performs most of the same functions, only for your Android phone instead of an iPhone. With DoubleTwist, you can sync music to and from your phone, whether it's song by song or a whole playlist. It's fast, simple, and free (which we like)."

    How is that not syncing music and media?

    Like I said before, you should attempt to do something before claiming it;s impossible.

    This makes me remember Arthur C. Clark when he said "Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction. They may be summed up by the phrases: 1- It's completely impossible. 2- It's possible, but it's not worth doing. 3- I said it was a good idea all along."

    Syncing an android with mac is hardly revolutionary, but you are still going through the same steps. I'm guessing you are about to hit phase 2.

    You can also sync your contacts through your Mac address book.
    You can sync your calender with iCal.
    Sync your media with doubletwist.
    Sync your photos with picassa.
     
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    Dude, seriously, maybe you should stop pretending you know more about this issue than the person using both a Mac and an Android phone? Take the robot seals off your eyes. I'm really not seeing how you, who don't deal with the problem, would know more about effective solutions than the folks who actually do deal with the problem?

    I guess if you don't mind maintaining your library in two different applications that would work. It's still way, way less convenient than having every aspect of syncing handled by the same program. I've used both platforms--Android's syncing options suck by comparison.

    Like I said before, you should try actually doing something before you claim it works or works well. You know, as in actually load up the software involved and giving it a shot, rather than reading some vague statements on someone's blog. Stop assuming that the people you speak with haven't read those same blogs and tried those same approaches and finding them lackluster to say the least.

    No (*)(*)(*)(*), because we've mostly become accustomed to the much superior syncing with iOS devices. Of course it's not revolutionary--this is basic (*)(*)(*)(*) we've come to expect over the last few years, which Android fails miserably at providing.

    No way is drag-and-drop generic disk access worth the crappy syncing options.

    Because you can sync them with google's web services.

    Same as above.

    If you want to maintain your library in two applications rather than one. This is not convenient, to say the least.

    Why would you use Picasa on a Mac?
     
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    Because I have no experience with iPhones or Macs. My dislike is arbitrary and not based in reality. Right?

    :roll:

    2 different applications? What is the 2nd one? iTunes? Who wants to use iTunes if you aren't being forced to use it?

    I claimed it works. I might have said it works just as well as iTunes. Syncing in general does not make a lot of sense to me. It creates huge problems with duplicate files, contacts, and calendars.

    I have said it before, the idea of forcing me to use a "Sync" to get files is the biggest reason I don't like iDevices. iTunes is crap software.

    No way is drag-and-drop generic disk access worth the crappy syncing options.[/quote]

    Myself and many others very heavily prefer the drag and drop interface. This is just a difference of opinion. iDislike the interface so much that iWouldn't have a an iDevice if someone gave it to me.

    yeah... and?

    Oh goodness no, I have to setup syncing in more than one place!

    You didn't say it was inconvenient, you said it wasn't possible. I showed you that it was. Also, this is just one way to sync. For example the manufacturers of my phone offer their own branded syncing program, HTC Sync.

    To sync photos? Why would you use a Mac?
     
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    LOL, an article from Ars Technica details the epic butt hurt of Steve Jobs:


    He was such a hypocrite...this is the same guy that proudly proclaimed that he had stolen many great ideas himself, and that this was part of what made Apple products so awesome. He not only admitted doing it himself, he was proud of it.

    (It turns out he really did spend his last dying breath fighting Android)
     
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    Wow...that is really messed up. Even for Apple.
     
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    Further evidence that fondness for apple products is a religion. It defies reason to believe it is a superior product.
     
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