Are We Headed For Another American Revolution? / Drum Beats of an American Revolution

I don't care about any of that Alex Jones crap. I'd be more than willing to live under an outright fascist or Marxist regime so long as my own personal life wasn't affected in any way. Hell as long as I can get laid and buy a beer on occasion, they could just repeal the Constitution, the 1st Amendment, the 2nd Amendment, etc, and I'd just ignore it and go about my business - sure I'd hate it, but there's a point when if you can't beat em, it's better to join em. And most would do the same as me whether they'd admit it online or not.

I wouldn't promote it or want it by any means, because I'm a big supporter of the 2nd Amendment - but ultimately there'd be nothing feasibly I could do about unless I was one of those big bad elitists myself and had the power to write laws. If I've got to risk my own life and well being just to defend a set of rights that most people in the world don't have, yet manage to still get buy without, then I could care less about the Constitution. It is just a god(*)(*)(*)(*) piece of paper when it really comes down to it, and I'd happily throw it in the crapper before bothering to pick up a gun to fight in your faux 'revolution' - if my own family or life was directly threatened by the govt - then I'd pick up a rifle. As far as me literally fighting for your right to own a gun, I frankly don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*). Do it yourself - and get killed or wind up on death row - me, I'll enjoy my beer and my girlfriend while you're rotting in prison.
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So knock of the Internet tough guy talk and conspiracy theories, and quit promoting terrorism under the guise of being a "patriot" - I'd bet that you wouldn't be willing to go around shooting or bombing random people if your 2nd Amendment rights were revoked anyway - and even if you would, it just makes you a nut who needs to lose the tin foil hat, and dawn a straight jacket.

 

I posted this one earlier in this thread, and you didn't even mention it.

Why not, rahl?!

FAITH2ACTION

The new terrorists

Exclusive: Janet Porter has to-do list for Americans the feds are now politically profiling

Published: 04/21/2009 at 12:00 AM
by Janet PorterEmail | Archive

Janet Porter is president of Faith2Action*: turning people of faith into people of action to WIN the cultural war TOGETHER for life, liberty and the family. Author of "The Criminalization of Christianity," she hosts a daily radio program from 2-3 p.m. Eastern and a daily radio commentary heard in 224 markets and at www.f2a.org. * Title and affiliation for identification purposes only.More ↓Less ↑ Subscribe to author feed

While the Department of Homeland Security admits they have “no specific information” of any violent activity or plans of any violence, in a “Rightwing Extremism” report, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano has labeled law-abiding citizens as “right-wing extremists” and potential “terrorists” anyway, and has instructed state and local law enforcement to monitor, investigate and “report information concerning suspicious or criminal activity to DHS and the FBI.”

Ironically, this is the same “Extremism and Radicalization Branch” of DHS that eradicated all references to the terms “Islamofascist” and “jihadist” (even though that’s the name those who are at war with us, themselves, use). The Obama administration, in replacing “war on terror” with “overseas contingency operations,” for fear of offending Muslims, apparently has no fear of offending Christians and conservatives.

Among the groups being targeted as “terrorists,” according to the report, are “military veterans” who return home (from fighting terrorists), those who “reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority” and “groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”

Are you the Obama administration’s idea of a dangerous subversive? Fight back with the magnetic message: “Why is being Right Extreme?”

Also listed among the targeted potential “terrorists” are those who purchase legal firearms and ammunition and oppose laws that restrict the Second Amendment. Also on the new terrorist watch list are those who believe in “‘end times’ prophecies,” and those with “fear and paranoia” “of an impending economic collapse.” In addition, law enforcement agencies are instructed to monitor and investigate citizens who do not embrace globalism, a “New World Order,” and those concerned about “a world government that would usurp the sovereignty of the United States and its Constitution.”

In fact, the New Terrorists (according to Obama’s Department of Homeland Security) would include the following:

1.George Washington (military veteran and gun owner)
2.Mother Teresa (pro-life)
3.Ronald Reagan (pro-life and staunch advocate for less government), and
4.The pope (supports life and traditional marriage)
‘Most dangerous’

Ignoring the real threats to our security from known Islamic jihad terrorist cells currently training terrorists on American soil, DHS, instead, has declared law-abiding citizens who express their First Amendment Rights as: “the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States” and has initiated domestic spying on them.

We’ve just seen this trial balloon shot down in Missouri when their Missouri Information Analysis Center issued a very similar “Strategic Report” that targeted those opposed to the United Nations, New World Order, Gun control, a Constitutional Convention, North American Union, the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chip, abortion and illegal immigration as “potentially dangerous.” It also urged law enforcement to be alert to such warning signs as bumper stickers for candidates such as Rep. Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin.

Even after this report was supposedly retracted, Catherine Bleish, executive director of the Liberty Restoration Project, reported (Faith2Action radio, April 1) cases of law-abiding citizens being followed, stopped and searched without cause or provocation. This is what political profiling looks like.

Meanwhile, a separate assault on our freedoms is being waged in the U.S. House Judiciary Committee with H.R. 1913, the “Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009,” scheduled for a vote tomorrow. We have already seen similar profiling in the “National Hate Crimes Training Curricula” in police training centers at selected colleges and universities that receive grants from the U.S. Department of Justice’s division called COPS, Community Oriented Policing Services.

The suspect groups in these curricula also include Christians whose “ideology is apocalyptic and who believe we are in, or approaching, a period of violence and social turmoil which will precede the Second Coming of Christ” (p.22). If you are a Christian who believes what the Bible has to say about homosexual behavior, you’re a suspect. If you’ve noticed that reading the paper is strikingly similar to reading the book of Revelation, you are also on a police “most wanted list” of potential criminals.

Both the DHS report and “hate crimes” legislation target law-abiding citizens with “politically incorrect” views. We’ve been led to believe it’s about crime, but there are already laws against crime. Rep. (and former judge) Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, pointed out in the House Judiciary Committee the bill “is going to put pastors in prison.” Here’s how: Title 18 of the U.S. Criminal Code, Section 2 (a) reads:

Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.

– 18 USC Sec. 2

That means if you “counsel someone,” write a book, or read from the Bible (such as what Obama says is an “obscure” passage in the first chapter of Romans), you could be found guilty of “inducing” someone to commit a crime.


The Homosexual Triangle Foundation’s executive director, Jeff Montgomery, told the Saginaw News back in April 2005: “Vocal anti-gay activists should be held accountable as accessories to these crimes because, many times, it is their rhetoric that led the perpetrators to believe their crimes are OK.”

They are targeting our beliefs and our speech. And they don’t want anyone to know about it. As the DHS report states, knowledge of this political profiling could “jeopardize their investigative activities.”

This DHS report states, “No portion of the LES information should be released to the media, the general public, or over non-secure Internet servers. Release of this information could adversely affect or jeopardize investigative activities.” Yet, this report was leaked just before the thousands of tea parties protested the Obama spending programs.

Whether it was an intentional intimidation tactic or an accidental occurrence, one thing’s for sure – we aren’t going to stand by while they profile good, law-abiding citizens as terrorists and take away constitutional freedoms.

Therefore, we, the law-abiding citizens of America, demand:

1.The resignation or removal of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano for her partisan political profiling of veterans and conservatives and her abuse of power.

2.An apology from President Barack Obama to ALL Americans for his administration’s call for domestic spying.
3.The immediate retraction of the “Rightwing Extremism” report for labeling law-abiding citizens as “terrorists” because of their political views.
If you’d like to help sound the alarm before you’re monitored as a potential terrorist, please help. Go to www.f2a.org and click the first blinking alert to fight “hate crimes” and click the link to www.NoPoliticalProfiling.com to help us place a newspaper ad and sign the petition to fight the new definition of “terrorist.”

The only way we can keep our freedoms is if we’ll use them – now.(End of Article)

http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/95619/

"paranoid delusions," RIGHT?!

WRONG!!!

Our government and politicians are NOTHING but puppets.

Do you know the driving force behind them?

I already told you, and guess I need to tell you again:

the u.n., european union, bilderberg group, vatican, free masons, international monetary fund, council on foreign relations, trilateral commission...and many other private corporations all over the world that make up this global fascist kabal new world order.

History, Facts, and Truths, rahl!

If you can, refute this with irrefutable facts and truths.

Your same response, "paranoid delusions," will prove that I have been RIGHT all along, and you have been dead WRONG all along.

You're the one who's delusional because you won't face the History, Facts, and Truths.

You're refusing to do the research.

Don't just read, watch, and listen to main stream news media. They're controlled.

 

You need lessons on how to write a readable paragraph.

Hint, people stop reading after the first few sentences when they can tell the whole thing is just a big copy/paste from some (*)(*)(*)(*)head Alex Jones-type website.

 

I DID NOT list one single alex jones link, website, video, or article. Besides that, anyone who knows and has researched the things he's talked about, knows that what he's been saying since the 80s or 90s(whenever he started his program and radio shows, videos,etc.), most, NOT all, but most of what he has said has actually happened? Why and How? Because he knows and understands history, and he studies the trends, like other good, independent reporters and journalists do when they dig the truth.

If you knew history, you wouldn't have stated: "I'd be more than willing to live under an outright fascist or Marxist regime so long as my own personal life wasn't affected in any way. Hell as long as I can get laid and buy a beer on occasion, they could just repeal the Constitution, the 1st Amendment, the 2nd Amendment, etc, and I'd just ignore it and go about my business - sure I'd hate it, but there's a point when if you can't beat em, it's better to join em. And most would do the same as me whether they'd admit it online or not."

You couldn't be more WRONG, spacecricket. The majority of our U.S. Military, Law Enforcement, and Veterans, and Patriot Civilians, Constitutional Militias would more than rise to the occasion.

Are you an American?! And if you are, do you dare to call yourself an American?!

You and those like you are part of the problem, because you won't stand up for what's Right, Just, Honorable, for Freedom, Liberty, and Justice for ALL.

You can't / Don't be afraid of these people and what they're doing(corrupt politicians), and their unConstitutional anti-American agenda and propaganda.

No tin foil hat here.

I've stated facts and truths.

How you deal with them, that's up to you.

 

For the last time, it's NOT an alex jones website.

And if you and others like you weren't lazy, and would read the entire article, you would've seen that the article was from:

http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/95619/

Go ahead and keep your head buried in the sand. You'll get shot in the arse.

And, actually, you need lessons in reading an entire article and / or paragraph, and in reading comprehension before responding. Kind of makes you look like an idiot.

 

Well dude, if the entire military rose up against it, then it would be a coup, not a 'revolution' - so hell I'd be fine with that. If they want to start a non-violent coup and throw the bums in Washington out I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.

However if there was actually another civil war, then that'd mean that civilians would inevitably killed - the Constitution guarantees a right to life, so if you ended up killing innocent people in your Revolution, intentionally or not, then you'd be violating their Constitutional rights. Me - the govt would have to start rounding up and killing people like Nazi Germany, before I'd bother considering joining some Revolution. As much as I like the right to own a gun, many countries don't grant that right, and the people still live more or less comfortable lives, so starting a Revolution over it would be stupid. And I doubt most Internet ranters and Alex Jones fans would have the balls to really do it anyway.

 

That's exactly the road we're going down, that of former nazi germany and ussr.

By the way, in NO way am I promoting or advocating revolution or terrorism.

I'm simply debating news, current events, and facts.

This whole thread is concerning "Are we headed for another American Revolution?"

NOT advocating or promoting it, it's a simple question.

 

Waiting for rahl to refute ALL of the above posted.

.......

 

Paranoid delusions. UN treaties have no effect on US law

 

Still waiting for mr. rahl to refute ALL of the above.

Links and sources.

Thank you for proving, once again, that I have been RIGHT ALL along, and you have been WRONG, ALL along.

 

Waiting for mr. rahl to refute ALL of the above.

.......

 

So, you're also denying the historical facts that Agenda 21, Rex 84, Small Arms Treaty / Arms Trade Treaty, National Defense Authorization Act, plans for a North American Union...and others that I have mentioned, indeed exist?

You might also be a "Holocaust" skeptic, then.

 

Waiting for mr. rahl to refute ALL of the above.

.......

Links and sources.

.......Still waiting.

 

LMAO!


Defenders of the status quo got quiet like a church around here huh?

 

already done. UN treaties have no effect on US law.

 

paranoid delusions. UN treaties have no effect on US law.

 

Talking points have no effect on real people either.

 

oh I have no delusions that I can change the mind of conspiracy theory nut jobs. I'm simply pointing out the idiocy, for other readers benefit.

 

Says the guy who can't make an argument, and is just slinging mud!

 

lol, can't make an argument? I directly refuted the arguments made by the OP.

 

In reality, you have been asked a question 10 times in a row that you refuse to answer.


Oh wait you answered, the other poster asked what 2 + 2 =

Your answer, 2 + 2 = dog. "See I answered the question"

Here is your sign!

 

lol, yet the OP's argument remains refuted

 

Coming from the guy who claims NDAA is a UN law!

Once again, here is your sign!

 

never once have I claimed NDAA is a UN law

 

Hey this guy is wearing clown pants over here!