Are We Headed For Another American Revolution? / Drum Beats of an American Revolution

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Watchman, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. rahl

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    like I said, I never claimed NDAA was a UN law.

    I of course was referring to the constant tin foil hat arguments like these...............
    but by all means, continue to make a fool out of yourself.
     
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    Then respond to his post.

    See you dismiss his entire argument based on the technicality that one thing he referenced, which was part of a larger picture he was painting, had to do with the UN.

    The only person that looks like a fool is you, claiming your response to the post in reference makes any sense, when in fact you are running away and refusing to engage while attempting to claim victory at the same time.

    Clown pants!
     
  3. Watchman

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    .......Links?!

    .......Sources?!

    .......Evidence?!

    .......Irrefutable and Historical FACTS and TRUTHS

    NOT just off the top of your head rambling, dribbling the same responses, which aren't FACTS or TRUTHS at all, merely opinions, and very, very, very poor ones at that.

    Still waiting for mr. rahl to refute ALL of the above.

    Links and sources.

    Thank you for proving, once again, that I have been RIGHT ALL along, and you have been WRONG, ALL along.

    You haven't refuted ANYTHING.

    Still waiting!!!

    .......???????
     
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    I'll continue a little more debate and arguing, to really show how misinformed, and unintelligent you really are, rahl(No offense).

    United States Marine Corp. Col. Oliver North...Have you ever seen or heard his hearing?

    What was it about?

    Agenda 21 is something different. I'll give you a hint where this comes from. The global fascist united nations.

    It's NOT a conspiracy theory if they're facts and truths.

    How about the Iran Contra affair?

    Oh, I know, "Paranoid Delusions," and "tin foil hat conspiracies," right?!

    WRONG AGAIN!!!

    Do you believe the holocaust happened, or are those "Paranoid Delusions," "tin foil hat conspiracies" also?!

    Still waiting for mr. rahl to refute ALL of the above.

    I don't believe he has answered one of my questions.

    .......
     
  5. Watchman

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    Then prove it!!!

    Links!!!

    Sources!!!

    Evidence!!!

    Irrefutable and Historical FACTS and TRUTHS!!!

    Still waiting for mr. rahl to refute ALL of the above.

    Links and sources.

    Thank you for proving, once again, that I have been RIGHT ALL along, and you have been WRONG, ALL along.

    I LOVE THIS GAME...PLEASE, CONTINUE!!!
     
  6. Watchman

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    Pimptight, I thought I was the "Lone Ranger" in this Thread. You're one of the only ones, if not the only one on my side.

    You are a TRUE Friend and Patiot, Sir!

    Thank you!

    NOT many people will battle and face the issues and the evil we're really up against.

    I love your avatar, by the way.

    Great movie! "V"
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the south already lost once, I sure hope they are not wanting a rematch if Romney loses


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  8. Watchman

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    Pimptight, I thought I was the "Lone Ranger" in this Thread. You're one of the only ones, if not the only one on my side.

    You are a TRUE Friend and Patriot, Sir!

    Thank you!

    NOT many people will battle and face the issues and the evil we're really up against.

    I love your avatar, by the way.

    Great movie! "V"

    (I re-posted because I accidentally mispelled Patriot, and the editing time ran out)
     
  9. rahl

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    asked and answered.

    by all means, continue to make a fool out of yourself.
     
  10. rahl

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    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article02/10.html

    there's a good place for you to start. UN treaties have no effect on the US constitution.
     
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    what question would you like answered? It's hard to follow your train of thought when you post random paranoid tin foil nuttyness.

    none of the above has anything to do with UN treaties or their effect on US federal law
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/gun-c...ts-american-revolution-11.html#post1061862705
     
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    Unicorns and butt fairies.

    By all means continue to make a fool out of yourself.
     
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    I am an enemy of disinformation, and while I'm not convinced that anyone really knows what is going on, I hate the propagandist's that pretend we shouldn't have questions!
     
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    I can't tell the difference between the posts, its like they are mirror images......get it now.....LMAO!
     
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    I've already answered the question, directly refuting the OP...........get it now
     
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    Likewise, Bro, an enemy of mis and disinformation, corruption, liberals, globalist propaganda...I'm hated, and usually ALL alone, and that's fine. I won't back down or be afraid of these scum bags. We cannot be afraid of these people. I'll call out anyone.
     
  19. Watchman

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    It's their effect on U.S. in general. They DO effect U.S. They effect EVERY nation, but especially ours because we and the U.S. Constitution are their biggest threat to their global new world order schemes, agenda, propaganda.

    I'm NOT playing your games, mr. rahl!

    ALL of them, mr. rahl. ALL of the ones I asked in the last 10 - 15 posts and the links and sources I have listed and provided.

    Post links, sources, evidence, etc., combating and refuting ALL that I have stated, and I will be impressed.

    Otherwise, quit trolling.

    NO DOUBT you most likely didn't even look at the links and sources I posted, let alone read my posts in their entirety.

    I've posted proof, links, sources, evidence, and historical facts.

    The u.n. does, indeed, effect U.S. greatly, more than you and others like you are willing to admit, because no doubt you people are the advocates of globalism and new world order, purposely spreading mis and disinformation with an effort to keep people from really waking up to the TRUTH.

    We are enemies.

    Still waiting for mr. rahl to refute ALL of the above.

    Links?!

    Sources?!

    Evidence?!

    Irrefutable and historical FACTS and TRUTHS?!

    .......

    Waiting...
     
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    already refuted..............http://www.politicalforum.com/gun-c...ts-american-revolution-11.html#post1061862705
     
  21. Watchman

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    .......

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Once again, mr. rahl FAILS to provide ANY substantial evidence, proof, links, sources, facts, truths, etc., to back up his argument / debate.

    He has NOT refuted anything, based on the above comment.

    I can't help but wonder what it must be like to get owned by someone that is only a Sr. Correspondent, with 524 posts, compared to mr. rahl being guru with 13,915 posts.

    It must be very, very embarrassing.

    I will carry on to other important matters and issues, now.

    Mods, feel free to close / lock this thread.
     
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    I have already refuted this, using US supreme court precident.........................http://www.politicalforum.com/gun-c...ts-american-revolution-11.html#post1061862705

    you can keep parroting your bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy conspiracies if you want, but I will just keep pointing out that they have been refuted, and that they are bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy.
     
  23. Watchman

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    Please read in entirety, you who think and believe the U.S. Constitution has to be ratified in order for it to change.

    UN Small Arms Treaty Means Big Changes for our Constitution
    Tea Party Tribune ^ | 2012-11-09 12:53:04 | mrcurmudgeon

    Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 1:21:58 PM by morethanright

    By Mr. Curmudgeon:

    Flush with a new sense of purpose after his re-election victory, President Obama signaled his administration's support for the United Nations Small Arms Treaty. What follows are two of the treaty's provisions:

    •Each State Party shall take the appropriate measures, within national laws and regulations, to control brokering taking place under its jurisdiction for conventional arms within the scope of this Treaty.
    •Each State Party shall maintain records in accordance with its national laws and regulations of the items referred to ... such records may contain: quantity, value, model/type, authorized arms transfers, arms actually transferred ... and end-users as appropriate. Records shall be kept for a minimum of ten years, or consistent with other international commitments applicable to the State Party.
    That means every firearm, its various parts and ammunition will be regulated. And you, the "end-user," will earn the privilege of having your name recorded in an international registry.

    "That can't happen here," you say, "The Supreme Court's 2010 ruling in District of Columbia vs. Heller denies the feds, the states and local authorities the power to restrict my 'right to bear arms.'"

    If you believe so, you are dead wrong.

    Most Americans believe the only way the United States Constitution can be revised is when Congress passes an amendment for the states to ratify. However, the president and Senate can do just that by signing and ratifying an international treaty. And just in case you have forgotten, Fast and Furious Democrats control the White House and Senate.

    In 1920, the Supreme Court's ruling in Missouri vs. Holland said the Constitution's treaty-making provision (the Supremacy Clause) means that international agreements entered into by the United States are the "supreme law of the land." The issue in the case concerned the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918. The U.S.-British agreement limited the hunting of certain endangered birds. The State of Missouri contested the treaty for violating their 10th Amendment state's rights.

    Progressive Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, writing for the high court's majority, established a line of legal reasoning that persists to this day: That changing times requires rethinking the interpretation of our dusty and antiquated Constitution.

    "... We must realize that they [the Founders] have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters," wrote Holmes, "... We must consider what this country has become in deciding what that [10th] amendment has reserved."

    In other words, the "Truths" the Founders declared to be "Self-Evident" are malleable clay. The Constitution is not a parchment containing the steadfast certitude of law but a living and evolving "being." More importantly, there is no need to exercise the constitutionally sanctioned remedies to amend the document when we have nine erudite high priests who are better suited to the task.

    When President Obama signs the U.N. Small Arms Treaty, and if the Democratic Senate ratifies it, the Constitution's Supremacy Clause - as interpreted by Holmes - effectively removes our Second Amendment protection from the founding document.

    It's more than a little ironic that an early 20th century treaty, designed to save birds, effectively renders us a nation of sitting ducks.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2957647/posts

    This is NOT a conspiracy theory.

    It's NOT a conspiracy theory if it's fact and truth.

    These are indeed the facts and truths, you'll see.
     

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