Are you for or against multiculturalism?

I hope you weren't offended. As you'll have seen, it was merely a follow-up post to the other thread, which itself was light-hearted, but sometimes wrong conclusions are drawn.

No, I just happened to be browsing the threads. What I don't know about molecular biology and neuroanatomy could fill a weighty tome!!

 

You are obviously wrong. I live within 5 minutes walk of Central railway station.
Redfern/Newtown area. My daughter lives in Riverwood, Bankstown Area.

I used to live for 5 years in Mt Druitt and 10 years in Parramatta. I have worked in Medical research with the Garven Institute and St Vincents Hopspital Darlinghurst and worked as a senior health manager at Westmead Hospital for 10 years.

I won't mention what happens to people that make ASSumptions, will U?

P.S. For the past 3 months now though I have been living in rural NSW caring for my 100 year old Father.

Do you live in Sydney?

 

If you say so.

 

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1.a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g., faith unfaithful kept him falsely true).

If White contradicts supremacist then white must be the opposit of supreme and is therefore inferior.

Your trolly statement afterward supports my interpretation.

 

With all due respect,
with the amount of contribution from the US and the content of those comments I am not surprised that Trump won the show....

Hmmm,
scary in my eyes. I thought you are a happy multicultural nation. That at least was my impression many years back, when I stayed for some months.

What has changed since?
Trump can't bring you the jobs back, which are gone. All empty promises. And he won't create an atmosphere of a better multicultural society, as he is a white supremacist (not even hiding it).
Is it that you people want? A true blue nation with white colored skin?
Please be honest and explain....
Cheers

 

Yes I do and know full well that the face of Sydney has changed so much that it is unrecognisable. Multiculturalism is supposed to enrich, influence and enhance the host nation. Not change the face of it. The south west of Sydney is now a melting pot of drugs, guns and shootings, the west is now a melting pot of gangs and knives and the city and north of the Bridge could well be mistaken for Yee Wo Street in Hong Kong.

Foreign housing investment has been embraced with open abandon to the point where you cannot even buy a 2 bedroom unit in my area for less than $1.3 Million. $146 Million has been allocated for just Sydney's share of the 12,000 Syrian refugees that supposedly the whole of Australia has committed to yet only $40 Million is allocated to helping our homeless children. We are spending millions of dollars on Middle Eastern Crime Squads, De-radicalisation programs in our schools and more new task forces to deal with the ethnic crime that is constantly escalating.

I am all for diversity and enrichment but the balance has been skewed and scattered and I see no enrichment or enhancement in losing the face of the host city. I am certainly not against multiculturalism but I am more in favour of balance and that balance is sliding very quickly.

Something has to give.

 

Absolutely it has changed. I first moved to Sydney as a 20 year old from a small farming community. I originally went to attend a friends 21st and well the rest is history. I did have several occasions where I didn't live in Sydney. Five years in Newcastle and five in Tamworth.

I am 63 years old and have a few degrees, all of which I attained after I was 35. Previous to that I was a blue collar worker.
I have worked as a farmer, fathers dairy farm, officially 15 to 18 but as any farm child knows work begins much younger.
2 years abattoirs as slaughterman, pigs and sheep.
2 years railways station assist.
2 years timber mill as sawyer
4 years Military Service full time
5 years sales automotive parts industry
3 years own business Retail
8 years tertiary education
1 years research scientists
2 years pathology laboratory supervisor
1 year own business - service IT
1 years teaching IT and year 10 science
10 years IT NSW Health
All very approx figures and not in chronological order
I have raised two children, 50% on my own my wife died when my daughter was 9 and son 14
I did remarry 10 years ago and that lasted 5 years.
I have spent 70% of my adult life as a hard core capitalist and 30% as a socialist if you need to put a label on it.
OK so that should tell you a little about me.
One of the small jobs I have done is work as a bouncer in night clubs around the cross in the 70's.

I think Sydney is a much more beautiful place now than it was in the 60's and a much much nicer place than it was in the 80's.

OK Now about your post. Firstly you are talking about many many different things.

The first thing is "Change"

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It has, but you know what? So have I. When I look in the mirror now I see an old man standing where I once stood, but let's not go there.

Recently I have returned to the town of my childhood, the one I left over 40 years ago. Oh I have returned often as my parents (now only father) have always lived there. Yes on each visit I saw change, a new open cut here, a new housing development there. Coles, Woolworths, Big W, Harvey Norman and a plethora of smaller businesses have moved into the town, the local emporiums and department stores have gone as have most of the small shops and businesses. A main street of shops has gone, well mostly and two new shopping centres have opened.

Half the population are not locals, they came to work the mines (mines includes open cuts) and a further 20% of mine workers commute.

There is a dramatic change in the people, they are not the same lay back rural communities I knew as a child and youth. Crime, drug use, vandalism and homelessness are rife, especially on a per capita basis.

Since I have been back home to live, approx six months I have noticed more and more of these changes. A bit like buying a new car, when you get it home you find little things that need fixing, but enough of them that collectively they are not good. Gone is the bowling alley, the picture theatre and most of the things we did as a community. The Rural Youth Club is gone, as is the pony club, the garden club, etc. All through lack of interest.

Nothing, none of these changes can be put down to immigration, Muslims, multiculturalism etc. It's change, we changed and we changed our worlds

Now I could run the same sort of comparison with Tamworth, exactly the same but without the mines, but they are coming.

Now I am taking longer to answer this and will continue it later.

The point here is that not one person in this town will tell you it's a better or nicer or prettier town now than it was 40 years ago. No one will say it's safer, cleaner or friendlier. Why, simple, it's not.

Now if you are talking about this then there is one answer to your first part, but I don't think you are.

I did however want to make this point. Most of the physical change, the violence, the drugs, the unemployment, the lack of respect for society and authority would still be with us. It is here and many other towns and cities not because of the gangs, the Muslims, The Asians etc.

Later I will cover the financial aspect you mentioned

I need a poppy nap first.

 

What a great post.
Yes it seems the change makes people itchy, and often they want to label it on a specific group of people. Living in rural WA I can confirm that most of our problems are not caused by Muslims or other minorities, as there aren't many here.
Our problems are our own children and young adults, home grown so to speak. Nothing to do with multiculturalism, nothing at all. We have to blame ourselves, but that is a different subject all together....
Cheers

 

It's quite a normal human attribute which fortunately most of us grow out of. As most know here my partner is in early childhood education which means she works with 3 to 5 year olds

One day after she had brought a group inside she noticed one little girl missing, going back out to the playground she heard a crashing sound behind a shed. Looking she found the little girl standing with a plant firmly grasped in her hand and a smashed pot at her feet. She looked around then back at my partner. "I didn't do it" she whimpered, "A Troll did".

We all need someone to blame, at the moment Muslims are the flavour and those with ulterior motives are jumping with glee at how easy it is to post the blame on them for EVERYTHING.

 

Of course communities grow and change and of course they deal with crime, whoever said they didn't? But the scales in Sydney have been severely tipped. It wasn't a natural progression and you certainly cannot compare Sydney with rural regional towns. That is absurd.

I have a very small strip shopping centre near me and it has 16 eateries. A few years ago I could get crepes, burgers, seafood risotto, pizza, beautiful seafood etc. Now we have 1 pizza place and 15 assorted Chinese, Japanese and Korean restaurants/take aways.

That's fine if you love Asian food, which I don't especially, and I am all for diversity but please tell me where is the diversity there?

As much as I admire your achievements and sympathise about your love life, it's about as relevant as comparing Sydney to Tamworth.

Why does Sydney need not only a Middle Eastern Crime Squad, de-radicalisation programs being introduced into primary and high schools, a new task force to deal with the gang wars and killings in south western Sydney and constant monitoring of potential terrorists do you think? This is not a natural progression of change it is are a direct result of unchecked immigration and the multicultural illusion gone wrong.

 

I agree with your last few paragraphs..but what would I know..Im a bigot, an islamaphobic, and I speak untruths and post biased links....and I support Pauline Hanson....

 

Yep, just about says it all, but you forgot ignorant, shallow, one dimensional, uneducated......and the epitome of boganism! Just adding to what you have already stated so don't be hating!

 

OK thanx for that....

 

Don't be hating? Oh the irony. Maybe you should remove the H from your mood emoticon? Just saying.

 

Be sure to watch Pat Condell on my other thread on Europe, UK, Germany, Sweden,etc
He even looks like me....

 

Do you have a link?

 

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/p...iminal-migrant

If it doesnt work go to Jihadwatch...

 

I didn't compare them, I just wanted to show that while Sydney has grown, so has everywhere else, and not always for the better.

This would be comparing. I have documented a few random stats from The NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics Jul 2015 - Jun 2016

Match the stst to the location.

Crime Location A Location B Location C Location D Location E
Robbery 35.2 21.5 153 74.9 37.4
Sexual assault 281.6 274 269 175 171
Assault other 1132.3 1142.2 2291.6 1102 821
Homicide 0 3.3 3.5 2.7 2.0

Location 1: Sydney City, CBD, Glebe, Redfern, Waterloo, Surry Hills. Erskineville
Location 2: Blacktown City, Mt Druitt, Rooty Hill, Plumpton
Location 3: Bankstown City, Revesby, Padstow, Chullora, Punchbowl, Villawood etc
Location 4: Tamworth
Location 5: My home town.

All are based on LGAs and are rates per 100,000 people.

 

Hey as long as I can help I'm happy! Sometimes we just need someone to hold the mirror for us.

 

OK thanx for that

 

Irony? Okay Irony with a touch of sarcasm! Move the H from my emoticon would be hatty! Nope, not getting it! Were you trying to sound smart?

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No probs again! Here to help!

 

OK thanx for that

 

Okay, your profuse thanks is gratifying. I get it!

 

OK thanx for that