In terms of armed teachers, personally, I think anybody that we trust to mold and guide the intellect of children, and who spend almost 8 hours a day with children, should also be trusted with guns, provided that they meet their state's requirements for getting a concealed weapons permit. IMHO, anybody that we can't trust with a gun, we shouldn't be trusting with our children either.
No you are the delusional one, I have never played any video games with shooting, However, I did Military service in "the Central America conflicts " contras etc.. in the 80's, I have several injuries that still give me no end of pain.
And they were all "organized fire ?" I maintain that violence I was involved in as a cop for decades and taking fire as a medic while trying to bring back the wounded was very chaotic. That's the comment I find completely delusional. To think that an untrained teacher with a gun and the cop that comes on the scene will be anything thing but chaotic is delusional. The .067 % that a school will have a shooting will be enhance by just having more guns. But, I worry not. Only states with a gun solution for everything will bend. The others will actually do the research instead of listening to NRA punch lines. It's not in your hands in my state and not in mine in yours. States with loose gun laws have more violence. It will continue for you guys and you will still be conduits for gun trade to areas that have tighte laws. Cops have known that for years and it will continue. http://www.salon.com/2014/07/04/10_...most_and_least_likely_to_kill_people_partner/
" States with loose gun laws have more violence. It will continue for you guys and you will still be conduits for gun trade to areas that have tighte laws. Cops have known that for years and it will continue. " That is a false statement, here in the U.S. areas with loose gun laws have the fewest crimes, Washington D.C. and N.Y.C and Chicago and L.A. all have skyrocketing crime rates. Mexico also has strict gun control, yet the cartels are armed with Military weapons and LAW s and AT-4, red eyes & stingers, M-16s etc.... P.S. many weapons come from France through Columbia with Cocaine shipments,, they don't come from U.S. sources, too expensive.
Gun for drug trade between the US and Mexico, big cities and states like Vermont with now very high drug addiction rates have been going on for years. You may have your NRA talking points down but you obviously are not aware of FBI and state findings on this matter. You need to talk to a state cop in just about any state. We routinely looked for cars during road blocks with plates from states with the larger cities and dug problems. There is an ongoing problem with all these states with loose gun laws. Heck, it even became a topic in the presidential debate. New Hampshire with it's lax gun laws is having a huge heroin addiction problem and everyone, but you guys, know why. Stunningly superficial for you not to. States statistics. are much more valid as the reference because it's a larger geographical area. Not only do red states have the most lax gun laws and the highest gun crime rates, but 9 or 10 of the poorest states are red states. That's all factual and not NRA tripe.
And yet armed civilians have stopped mass shootings... http://controversialtimes.com/issue...hootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/ And, citizens do successfully defend themselves...virtually every day. http://www.startribune.com/brooklyn...s-armed-robbery-with-fatal-gunfire/369832761/ http://www.tbo.com/news/breaking-ne...re-with-clerk-at-tampa-liquor-store-20160222/ http://nbc4i.com/2016/02/21/homeowner-shoots-kills-suspected-intruder/ Successful defensive shootings happen nearly every day, and a trend I have just noticed over the last few weeks is the media is beginning to report them more frequently where previously these instances were rarely reported. What isn't being reported are all of the instances where a gun was used in defense but no shots were fired. Obama's sanctioned CDC study afirmed the value guns for civilians self defense... http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent Again, while guns have been in successful defensive shootings where reportibg is required, in excess of 100,000 times a year, the CDC indicates adding in non shooting defenses that successful defenses are likely to be in the neighborhood of 500,000 per year. The argument that in a movie theater senario a civilian would kill innocents or be killed by resonders is unsupported spectulation...in all the hundreds of self defense senarios with police arriving after the fact, it doesn't happen or is so rare that it is difficult to find supporting instances. Those with CCW'S legalky carrying, as the numbers show, are extremely responsible. The blood in the streets predictions never happened. But, the other facts are, that in the last 8 years over 120 million guns have been added in the US where there are now over 400 million guns in circulation. In the same time, millions of new CCW'S have been acquired. And, despite all of the doomsayer predictions, crime didn't increase proprtionally...violent crine has continued its downward trajectory. In regard to arming teachers...here's a view from the police attitudes on this... https://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legis...d-citizens-the-best-solution-to-gun-violence/ As for guns in classrooms... I may be in a situation, a car jacking or robbery for example where I lose, but I'd rather the chance to defend myself, than be a sheep waiting for slaughter.
And if you resist, you are likely to succeed, many sources have proved this true, even liberal tv media carries stories of senior citizens that have successfully defended themselves against a home invasion, I saw one recently of a WW-ll Veteran that was badly bruised and beaten, he pulled a .22 NAA revolver and shot his attacker ending the fight !
If this is such a great idea I keep waiting for the country that has already done this so we can adopt their model. I mean there must be so many. There must be a place where most teachers are carrying weapons in class. What's next? Maybe everyone on a plane should be armed. How about when you go to court.....lots of dangerous people there. How about at work? Should everyone be armed there? Of course you need one at the bar....lots of fights there. Is it just possible that this obsession with guns many of you have has reached ridiculous proportions?
We have had incidents in schools that need to be addressed. The left wants to attack guns as a solution, which we know is not a real solution to the problem of active shooter situations. Arming teachers that have been trained and are legal, will provide quick responses, instead of waiting for law enforcement. It will mitigate the damage done. Planes..... we have security already, havent you flown lately? Courts...... there are armed guards already... maybe you havent been in court lately. Work...... It's up to the employer to set the policy, and many employers have no problem with concealed carry. Bars..... are already spelled out in local statutes as to firearms in places that sell liquor. There is no obsession with guns, we're just defending the 2A from people that want to rob Americans of their liberties.
I agree, you are obsessed with guns, taking away other peoples guns, you also seem to be in a grip of fear too, perhaps you should seek psychiatric help.
I just heard of a shooting that involved a school in Oregon, King school, no cameras, no plans to put any in, they flat out refused saying there is NO MONEY for it, the parents have no choice in the matter ? camera & recording equipment has never been cheaper or so high tech, wireless, and I am sure if the parents pony up, they can easily raise the needed funds, and I am sure somebody would donate the labor too. Somehow I don't think anyones safety or security other than banning guns, is a high priority.
Where is the model country that is doing this successfully? You want to experiment on our kids first? What if you are wrong and many more children die? How can you sleep at night?
Stop running in circles and flapping your arms for a second. Breathe. Think. Why does a holstered, concealed weapon on a teacher create a more dangerous situation in a school?
Its a simple question. slow down. Just try to answer it honestly. We will get to your question. One at a time buddy
If there was a sign saying "armed faculty is allowed, murder at your own risk" then they wouldn't even need to unholster them. BTW if I'm not mistaken there are schools now that have shooting sports.
Here's two sites talking about children bringing guns to school. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2980293/posts http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvscho.html - - - Updated - - - I thought the whole idea was to keep kids from guns. Those same teachers probably have guns at home with children.
How is a teacher in a classroom with thirty kids all day long who is armed related to anything you are saying?
I'm not sure what you're afraid of happening. Guns don't leap out of their holsters dolphin-style every few minutes to get air.
Which of your strawmen, hand-wringing arguments are you talking about. All I see is emotion, you can't debate emotion.
