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ATF says medical marijuana patients can't own guns

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by randlepatrickmcmurphy, Oct 1, 2011.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "At this point, there is no legal use for marijuana in medicine"

    there is legal use of marijuana in medicine - JEL (Just Eliminate Lies)


    "I think marijuana is more harmful than alcohol "

    how many have OD'd from Alcohol, now how many have OD'd on Marijuana.... I rest my case

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    FreshAir, Sep 6, 2016
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    ODs aren't the main danger. BUt then again, my guess is you're just trying to justify the main vice. The danger of marijuana is it puts people into a weird sense of complacency. It also doesn't clear the body for possibly months. Alcohol clears the body in less than 36 hours (mostly less than 24).

    Please point out the federal legal medical use of marijuana (there is no state approved legal use of marijuana). The people using that treatment would be eligible for having guns.
     
    perdidochas, Sep 6, 2016
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  3. Junkieturtle

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    This might make sense on paper if you refer to marijuana as a "drug" and talk about it as if it's the same as the other harder drugs because all of them are "drugs".

    But in reality, people using marijuana are hardly more at risk of using guns than someone who consumes alcohol regularly to the point of being "drunk"(so that the effects approach the same levels of those of being "high"). Neither thing is really a sensible determination of whether someone is going to use those guns in a crime. People with mental health issues I can understand, but this is really just backlash by the Feds regarding state laws that legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
     
    Junkieturtle, Sep 6, 2016
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    There should not be an ATF or a federal gun control law

    It should be a state issue period
     
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    i sure wouldnt want a stoned person next to me at the gun range
     
    Ronstar, Sep 6, 2016
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    nor would I but I wouldn't want someone on many pain killers etc. shooting next to me. However, if your doctor has prescribed a pain killer that doesn't disqualify you from owning a firearm-and the ATF is WRONG on this one. The 68 GCA is about people ADDICTED to or under the influence of narcotics. this is another reason why the ATF needs to be defunded It engages in to creating laws which is not its proper function.
     
    Turtledude, Sep 6, 2016
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one should be allowed to use a gun while on certain controlled substances that can SERIOUSLY impair their skills and movement.
     
    Ronstar, Sep 6, 2016
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    Should I have to surrender my unregistered firearms if I am prescribed pain killers for my kidney stone passing?
     
    OrlandoChuck, Sep 6, 2016
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    A person with a medical marijuana card has already proved their legality with State law.
     
    danielpalos, Sep 6, 2016
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    i would say no
     
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    Where do you draw the line?
     
    OrlandoChuck, Sep 6, 2016
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    Cannabis is a class three drug and federally illegal. The AFT has no choice. If gun owners want marijuana users to be able to possess fire arms, support those who will get the law changed. State laws can allow ,marijuana to be used medicallyl, but that doesn't change the federal gun laws and users of the drug.

    Guess who wants to legalize pot ?
     
    dagosa, Sep 6, 2016
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    You ????

    By the way, it is ATF, or BATFE not AFT,

    by the way, :roflol: your typos provide much Lulz......
     
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    We have a Commerce Clause and a Fifth Amendment.
     
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    Natural rights mean nothing to them, unless there are guns to love; just a bunch of gun lovers.

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    I believe in "raising the national civil flag", and merely, "harassing the Judicature" to faithfully execute our own laws.
     
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    A recommendation is the equivalent to a prescription, in States that have medical marijuana programs, for controlled substance purposes.

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    We are still waiting for the fantastical, right wing, to muster their alleged moral of "goodwill toward men" and form up.
     
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    Some on the left, don't mind being more responsible, and letting Coca-Cola, put the coke back in their drink.
     
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    Why not? According to the latest research, raw cannabis can be used as a medicinal herb and vegetable.

    It seems, Arbitrary and Capricious.

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    10USC311 is also, federal law.
     
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    Marijuana is non-toxic even with over, dosing.

    Alcohol is deadly upon overdose, and can be deadly upon sudden withdrawal, once addicted.
     
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    Please point out where the federal government has police power over States.

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    what if he shoots better than you and starts goading you to use marijuana to get better?
     
    danielpalos, Sep 7, 2016
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    Incorrect.
    Use of MJ in the US is always illegal.
     
    TOG 6, Sep 7, 2016
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    false, you can have a valid medical prescription for Marijuana just like any pain killer, ect.....

    if you want a prohibition President, vote Trump...

    look at Colorado, crime is down, tax revenue up, time to end Marijuana prohibition.....

    you have been lied to by prohibitionists... prohibition is NOT the answer

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    FreshAir, Sep 7, 2016
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    Notice how you moved the goalpost? I did. Clearly, you know you are wrong.

    Use of MJ in the US is -always- illegal; the federal law that makes it illegal does not allow for any medicinal use.
    -Always- illegal.
     
    TOG 6, Sep 7, 2016
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    Not prescribed by a doctor under federal law. Yes, you can have state laws that do so, but federally, it's still illegal. The only thing close to being proven for marijuana is that it lowers intraocular pressure which is what causes glaucoma.
     
    perdidochas, Sep 7, 2016
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    Your right this is an insane infrigement of 2a and I hope it is taken to court immediately.
     
    Bastiats libertarians, Sep 7, 2016
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