Breaking active shooter at Washington navy yard. >>>MOD ALERT<<<<

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  1. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

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    I just heard that as well thanks for the info. It would be too sophisticated for a average thug or thugs of any skin color.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears they are normalizing the police state mentality instead of simply dealing with the threat. Suspending flights miles away for one guy seems absurd and completely disproportionate to the threat. Is this the country we built on the principles of freedom? Doesn't look like it...

    *I see they updated the number of shooters, either way the response appears out line to the threat involved. Too lazy to go back and rewrite everything...
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Those are some nice photos.

    All DoD installations have perimeters, period, even the water fronts.

    Why don't we wait until everything calms down and an investigation is done.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Because this is PF and a situation like this is the perfect opportunity for us all to speculate wildly and try to prove that all our gripes, fears, and especially animosities are well founded.
     
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    Good lord! How did I do that? Thanks for the correction micfranklin.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    LOL, I've noticed that seems to be a trend.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the big aerial... see that white building on the top left... that is NCIS... that little brown shack behind it... is where this took place.

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    Now look at the water line... and see the border outside. 3 frogs can swim those 3 blocks in no time and get where they are going.

    I intend of course to wait for details... until then I apply Occams. Seems like the water is where to go.
     
  8. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Yep - and I join right in, too. Damned if I'm gonna miss out. I'm saying it was probably stupid Muslims 'cause they ALL are murders, but could be white nationalist bikers, or the beginning of the black genocidal war against the white owned military-industrial-plantation complex. Errrr... or something that. Commie bastards! Anarchist crud lickers! Racists, all of them. Gun toting community disorganizers!
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. I want to be right. I think they came in from the water. They could be ours.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    The reports have the shooting at the headquarters.
    http://news.yahoo.com/shots-fired-at-washington-navy-yard--u-s--navy-confirms-130407614.html
    The Navy said shots were fired at the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters building on the base at 8:20 a.m., and a "shelter in place" order was issued for Navy Yard personnel.

    If those people were divers, then 3 blocks, carrying weapons and ammunition in non clear water, is not easy. In addition, underwater acoustics for security has been around for decades. They were employed during the cold war. It is most likely a DoD installation would have them, especially after 9/11.

    Frogman which later became Navy Seals, are some exceptional people. The amount of training for that to carry some military rifles on a base would be a lot of effort for a small effect.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    In that aerial photo you posted called "Back door", where is that brown building you spoke of? Is it the little building just to the upper left of the smaller of the two white buildings? If so, that is very close to the water's edge.
     
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    Well I don't know, but I do like your attitude. :)

    Who knows, this could very well be some Muslims that slipped through security. One thing is certain, the place is on lock down and it will be searched, thoroughly.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude... it is crammed in the Waterfront... there is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Bennigans on the other side of the wall... (ok I think Bennigans went out of business... haven't been there in a while, but it is PACKED with tourists at all times. I am assuming 3 blocks because they didn't want diners seeing them drop in... lol. Clarity of water doesn't matter, it is along a breech wall. Yes, frog men can swim 3 blocks with weapons against a wall. It is just a theory. And if you look at your bolded section, and look at the map directly above it... you will see they are the same place... if you go back to the backdoor photo, you can see it clearly almost touching the water. Brown building behind the big white one... top left.

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    Yes. Look at the CNN map.

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    The white buildings are NCIS... well... I know the smaller one is. The brown building behind it, touching the waters edge, is where the shooting took place.
     
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    Tourists are not allowed on DoD installations. Your "theory" is a long shot.
     
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    DC police chief and the mayor going to speak as well as Pres. Obama.


    The last I heard it was still considered a active scene. With the shooter being a navy officer in his 50's that had recently had his status changed.
     
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    I take it back... it is beyond the brown building... you cannot see it in that photo behind NCIS... building 197. Still applies. Just a few feet further.

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    Police chief says there maybe 2 additional shooters.
     
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    There is a naval museum there, is that only open to veterans and active duty personnel? I doubt it...

    Looks like the public is welcome to me...

    http://www.history.navy.mil/about/navy_yard.html
     
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    I wonder how long it will take before the suspect(s) are identified as "Assad sympathizers"?
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A couple hundred yards from that building is a wall. On the other side of that wall is civilization. Google DC Waterfront dining.
     
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    I think it highly likely to be the disgruntled current or ex-employee, who had knowledge of the place, if not wanting to target a specific building and/or group of employees. Some say 2 shooters, which would negate the ex-employee angle, but everything we are hearing otherwise would make 2 shooters less likely. Were this a true terrorist attack, by an outsider, as some have alleged, they would be highly unlikely to choose this target, although a Major Hassan at Ft. Hood scenario would seem possible, where one combines a disgruntled employee with a religious excuse.

    But I concur. A pure outsider who managed to just slip thru is highly unlikely.
     
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    How is mentioning he is black when he is black race related. You can bet damn well if he was white NBC would have "experts" suggesting he was Tea Party
     
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    I agree, it is possible a "Major Hassan" incident has repeated itself.
     
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    One of our own? CONSPIRACIST!!!

    lol.

    So it is just the water approach you find to be outlandish... even though... there are no gates... and the target is next to the water... fair enough. I will probably end up being wrong. With DC cops shot, they probably hit some weak gate, and cops saw bad guys.
     
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    The public does not have access to the whole base, any suggestion of that is being naive. Sorry but standard security protocols on US bases does not allow that.

    They most likely have a defined access route.
     

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