Calling folks racist on this forum

Excuse me - but if someone states that they believe that one race is superior to another...THEN THEY ARE RACIST as defined in the dictionary.

Are you saying that we are not allowed to call people EXACTLY what the dictionary says they are defined as - assuming we can verify that the person in question has in fact made a racist statement?

 

I would say talking about race openly on the internet is less cowardly than the internet keyboard commando role that some people choose to live out.

You've been gone for a little while. You might have missed the story that explained that Treyvon called himself "No_Limit_NI**A" online. It's sad that he had to choose such an offensive term to describe his race, but it's not really racism when someone simply points out his choice of a screen name, is it?

 

I agree as well.

 

That might be the exception -- if someone is openly stating they are racist. That's why we judge these individually.

 

why do you have to call them anything? We might have someone admit to sleeping around too--but we wouldn't allow another poster to call them a ***** either. What's so difficult about "no name-calling?"

 

I have found here on the Forum that dictionary meanings mean nothing to those losing an argument. They just redefine the word. 'Racism' is a good example, its meaning seems to fluctuate with whatever argument is being put forward.

For instance, Al Sharpton sees white on black 'racism' in the Trayvon/Zimmerman tragic incident while others see Al Sharpton as racist for 'race baiting' before the facts have been settled.

 

Because - by definition - it is NOT 'name-calling'.

name-calling
'the use of abusive names to belittle or humiliate another person in a political campaign, an argument, etc.'

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/name-calling


Name-calling - BY DEFINITION - requires abusing/belittling/humiliating.

1) Please tell me how one can be actually 'abusing/belittling/humiliating' a someone if the person you are calling 'racist' admits they are racist and/or fulfills all that is required to qualify - by definition - for that description?

and 2) am I allowed to call someone 'racist' who openly admits they are 'racist' and actually uses that word to describe themselves?

 

JP5 is calling this one correctly. Hat, you are wrong for saying that it is the same thing to call someone racist as it is to call their post racist. The operative difference being that the ToS say "attack the post not the person" (actually that's a paraphrase, I didn't feel like looking up the exact wording). It's just like you can say, "your post is stupid as hell", but you can't say "you are stupid as hell" even though one implies the other.

 

Please forget it.

I realize being a mod is not easy...so just forget it.


I'll try to 'watch it'.

 

I'm sorry ... maybe I didn't make myself Crystal Clear.

A) I work in a building with Class 1 through 5 Network switches, so I'm never gone; I'm actually everywhere I want to be. They maybe old-school, but they're exactly what any digital fiber switch depends on. So don't ever let MAC and IP Addresses lull you into any false security.

B) We all know why a Coward would use "No_Limit_NI**A" on this forum. My point is, they would never try that anywhere else in person but here, on this forum that gives them the stones to say whatever they want so long as they stay on Topic.

Lastly) Make NO mistake, I'm no Coward on the Internet, and I'll be more than willing to provide anyone my precise coordinates to explain exactly what I mean, especially a George Zimmerman, because I'm no 150 lbs 17 year old.

I just would like to make those FACTS Crystal Clear.

 

No it's no different.

The TOS in this instance simply gives the member an indirect (implied)way to attack another member.

By substituting "post" in the place of "you " is simply a play on words. Calling someone's post "stupid" or "racist" is calling that particular person's belief "stupid" or "racist".

Our comments are all we have here that belong to us. If your arguing this stuff face to face and you start callin the otherguy's comments "stupid" or "racist", that is not gonna end well is it? No, of course not. It's gonna send the entire conversation on a course to confrontational ends b/c your now insulting the other person.

It's no different here.

That rule is being used by members here to simply go into a thread and call another member's post "stupid" or "racist" or whatever and then that poster either disappears or continues through the thread doing nothing but calling posts "stupid" or "racist". Now we have added trolling to the mix at that point.

And this is daily.

Calling someone's post "stupid" or "racist" is nothing more then an underhanded assault on the other person. Instead of being blunt, the TOS says "insult them mildly or off-hand, but still insult them".

I may be wrong, I will have to go back and see, but implied insults are a no-no too. So....if that is the case then calling posts "stupid" or "racist" is an implied insult and the TOS is contradicting itself.

 

As long as it's On-Topic ... it doesn't appear to be insulting.

 

Well, if someone is gonna label themselves a Nazi, the big question then becomes:

Why would you waste your time with them?.....lol.

 

I already said that could be the one exception. IF a member says, Yes, I'm a racist and proud of it and here's why...and a person responds mentioning the fact he just provided that he's a racist, that could be the one exception. We'd just have to judge how it transpired and whether or not we thought it was being used to flamebait unnecessarily.

What we sometimes have here, however, is members calling other members racist for all kinds of reasons. Usually it's done to insult and to stop the discussion. No one likes to be called a racist and that, IMO, is generally why it's done.

 

thats the obvious solution.

 

I and most normal people don't even need that.

Awesome post...


If he's not 12 then why is the lamestream Jewsmedia posting a picture of a 12 year old boy?

 

I would have more respect for ANYONE would would tell me ... FACE to FACE, why they have a Problem with ME and the Color of my Skin.

That type of individual would deserve my respect for their honesty ... and NOT the Cowards who hide on the Internet protected by Forums.

 

But who gets to decide what is a racist comment? Is condemning the president....or criticizing his policies a racist comment? Some people seem to think so.

 

Conversely, there are plenty of folks on the forum that are blatantly racist, who proudly pronounce it. If it is a statement of fact, and they have no issue with being called that, then why should anyone crack down on it?

 

Am I to understand that you are hacking into folk's accounts?

Thank goodness one can speak their mind on this Forum because free speech is quite limited otherwise.

So, not only do you violate folks' privacy but you threaten them as well? You need to explain yourself.

 

The media decides and blasts it out to the 'sheeple' who dutifully obey.

 

You obviously don't know Telecom Equipment ... it doesn't allow you to hack accounts, do some studying first.

I think the words you're looking for is equal freedom of speech.

Personally I never make threats and if I did, I wouldn't waist them on faceless names on the internet. If I say I'm going to do something, chances are I've already started.

 

You weren't very clear in your post. You wrote:

"I work in a building with Class 1 through 5 Network switches, so I'm never gone; I'm actually everywhere I want to be. They maybe old-school, but they're exactly what any digital fiber switch depends on. So don't ever let MAC and IP Addresses lull you into any false security."

What did you mean then?

 

If people are indeed using the term erroneously than I understand your point. The posts I am thinking of leave no room for debate though, and personally I am more bothered by bigotry than name calling. I understand the rules are the rules and I don't get to make them, but in my opinion posting things like black people are a bunch of stupid violent (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s doesn't do much for civil debate either and are not only idiotic and offensive but a direct insult to all of the forum's black skinned posters.

 

JP5, now you know what blatant racism is. C'mon buddy. Even Rachel Maddow has criticized the Prez. Michelle Obama has said unflattering things about POTUS. You're a moderator and an adult. You know full well that strawman ain't gonna work. C'mon JP5. We're your friends. Talk to us like big kids.

Where you live is "Jewsmedia" an acceptable thing to say? Is that even something that has to be discussed?