Corporal punishment still happening in American schools? WTF?

you said the poor should get goldfish if they can't reach financial stability, at least that was how I read it

and by 'right' - I did not mean a constitutional right

 

When I was in school in the 80s and 90s, our school rulebook still included a section on corporal punishment. I never heard of anyone actually getting spanked as I think the district had kind of phased out the practice even if they hadn't removed the rule, but talking with some folks who attended the same school 10-15 years before me, they can remember a few incidents of spankings being handed out.

It's too bad though. There are definitely some kids who could use some spankings. Sure, it may not be universally effective, but it can definitely help deter behaviors in some people until they are mature enough to not need the threat of a spanking to see why it's wrong.

 

SHOULD and MUST are two very different things. I would hope that those of us with an interest in improving the human condition retain an acute awareness of the difference between what people CAN do, and what they SHOULD do. Feting bad choices doesn't make you compassionate, it makes you the opposite.

 

like I said, there will always be poor people and they should be allowed to have families just like anyone else

 

What's the difference between teaching at home and teaching at school?

 

Surely you acknowledge that home schooling is simply not realistic for some families.

 

This discussion is still going on!
The issue is not going to be resolved probably because there is no compromise position.
Some people feel that violent assault on children is acceptable, some people feel that’s wrong.
Personally I have tried to point out the illogicality and risks associated with violent assault on children, but sadly for me there are those who see it as acceptable despite any inherent risks.
Maybe there is a business opportunity for self defence classes for children, especially how to deal with bigger people who are assailants.

 

You characterizing corporal punishment as "violent assault' (it isn't) doesn't help anything.

 

It simply is violent assault.
How else can it be characterised, a persuasive dance drama?

 

Punishment

 

Yes, a punishment in the form of a violent assault on (what is usually) a smaller person by (what is usually) a bigger person.
For no good reason.
Or if it is for good reason, why not explain that reasoning to the smaller person, and then use a range of other sanctions instead of assault with the intent to cause pain?

 

1) Children have to understand that many things in life don't come with "reasons".
2) What's wrong with "pain"? It is part of life isn't it.

 

1. Is that supposed to be justification for a senseless assault?
2. Yes pain exists, usually as a result of something. The pain we seem to be talking about is as a result of a violent assault, which in most parts of society is against the actual, and natural, law.

Sounds like you’ve begun a sadists charter.

 

I don't, no. Anyone can do it if sufficiently motivated.

Many many ordinary people homeschool large families, and even more homeschool one or two kids. It's a matter of will, not talent.